Episode 97: NCAA finals, The State of NIL & MLB Rookie Deals
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Episode 97: NCAA finals, The State of NIL & MLB Rookie Deals

NCAA Finals, NIL, MLB Rookie Deals


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Hello and welcome to the Shrewdness Podcast.

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I'm Prue, Chis and Dex joining me.

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The whole crew's here tonight. We're here to bring you another

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great edition of the shrewdness. And this week we're going to

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talk a little bit more about baseball, but we want to spend a

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little bit of time up front here wrapping up, I guess, a fairly

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competitive NCAA final, UConn against Michigan and Michigan

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given the Fab 5A run for their money as far as being maybe,

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maybe one of the. Greatest.

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Michigan teams. Ever They're climbing.

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It. And it's pretty similar because

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while the Fab 5 was all freshmen there for the first year, this

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Fab 5 was all transfers. So they're still first year in

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Michigan. They're all first years.

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It's just new age. Sorry to interrupt.

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Sorry to interrupt you. Let's kick it on.

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Yeah. That's yeah, it was.

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The new age of college basketball.

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They look pretty dominant for a lot of the game.

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Yukon hung with them and kind of kind of started inching back

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into it. What do you guys?

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Yeah, I mean, it never really was closer than the six points

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that ended up but. No, it's it's, it's like

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watching a boat driveway in the distance.

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It's way faster than your boat. And you're like, they pull over

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and stop to eat dinner and you like catch up for a little bit

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and then they go again like, oh man, there they go again.

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They were never, ever going to catch up and pass them.

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It never felt close despite it getting down to like 5 or 6

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points a couple different times. It was just Michigan dominating

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the whole time. The whole game it just felt like

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they controlled every aspect of it, even the low runs.

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So UConn had some low runs, but this is Michigan's game.

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They were in a superior team. Yeah, I mean it.

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It was a rock fight for sure though.

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Like the field goal percentages were ugly 30. 8 similar though.

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38% for Michigan, 30.9% for UConn.

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And honestly, like I, I will give credit, I, I know that he's

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a very polarizing personality, but I will give credit to Danny

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Hurley because he knew going into this he was outclassed and

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he was going to have to make it a rock fight for them to have a

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chance. And they did.

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They they, they slowed the game down When they got in trouble

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was when there was a little run at the end of the first half,

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Yep, where Michigan got some fast break points.

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All of a sudden they're like boom, boom, boom.

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They scored quite a bit all at once.

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And that was not the game UConn wanted to play.

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It was like, OK, if we're going to open this game up, UConn

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screwed because they, they were, they could not run with them by

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any means. But when they would get him in

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the half court, they put, they played good defense and they,

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they, they held Michigan to way less than their average, but

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they just couldn't hit any shots on the other side.

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Like it was like if they would have, if they would have made a,

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you know, if they would have made 40% of their shots, they,

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they probably could have won this game, But they, they just

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couldn't pull anything together offensively.

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They looked. Bad they had.

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They had the right strategy, but Michigan made 25 of 28 free

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throws. Oh my gosh.

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Three were all in the last couple minutes and the.

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Yeah, they were like perfect. The first 22 I think they hit it

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was. Insane.

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Like you're right through. Like they that was the

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difference. They wanted it to be physical

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and they did make it physical and they wanted it to be, you

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know, slow it down, make it a rock fight.

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They made it a rock fight. But then Michigan hit all the

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free throws and Yukon just didn't shoot well enough.

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They didn't. They didn't have anybody.

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Yeah. No one got super hot.

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That drained like 7 of 10 threes in this game.

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That's kind of what they needed. I mean, Caravan, he had a good

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game, 17 point. He's a player a lot.

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He is, and it's a true senior that played with the same team

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every year. It's right.

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It's a Unicorn in today's game. What is he doing?

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He was getting offers to transfer, unaware of the

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transfer portal. What is what is that swirling

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abyss over there? Don't go there.

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It's full of money. Like just stay here.

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You you can do anything you want there.

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Oh. Terrace Reed had a good game, 13

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points, 14 rebounds. Braylon Mullins, get freshmen.

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I had kids good. Yeah.

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I didn't want you come this year till the tournament.

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He only had 11 points, but 7 rebounds, 2 assists.

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So it's a good game, but not great games.

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None of them had a great game. And that's why UConn, I mean,

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they scored 63 points, end up being 6963, so they covered

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their 6 1/2. Dang it.

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Dang it. Dang right.

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That's right. And I know to to Dex's dismay.

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It was and they just need to take the foul and shoot a free

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throw and just just kick one more.

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Point So I I predicted there would be a Duke Michigan final

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and my tiebreaker was 133. So I was was last second prayer

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by UConn away. From Totally a pretty.

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Bad. Close.

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So what an interesting stat that I saw that I didn't realize was

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accurate is the offensive rebounds.

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UConn doubled up Michigan 20 to 10.

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Wow. Which is surprising.

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Shocked by that? Yeah, 'cause there's they're

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pretty even down the board. I mean, onesies and twosies here

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and there, but then you doubled up offensive rebounds, which

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normally is a very telling stat and well, usually that team wins

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if you double up the offensive rebounds because you get totally

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more shots on your side. But when you.

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Shoot 30%, there it is. And that's when you couple it

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was not shooting well, you don't really do much.

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I do want to get your opinion, both of you guys.

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So I found it inspiring, but I also found it stupid.

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Yaxel Lindeborg, the Big 10 player of the year, looked

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broken. He looked broken.

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We could have done gone up and down the court faster than him

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and probably shot as well as him.

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I mean, he he scratched 13 points and they were the ugliest

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13 points of a championship game you'd probably get.

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Yeah. I don't know if I would have

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played that many minutes to Dusty May.

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Did Michigan's coach, did he make a mistake by letting him

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play or was it loyalty to your guy who got you there that lets

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him play and my I wouldn't have let him play that many minutes.

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What do you guys think? I think it's some of both.

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Part of us was probably the actual like, coach, I'm not

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coming out. Yeah, I got you here and I want

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to play type thing and yeah, I don't know.

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I I think you got to let the superstar play.

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He led the team in minutes, so he he was 36 minutes and.

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A broken handicap minutes like I got his little blue wheelchair

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on the. Rearview gear.

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You got five of them from the free throw line.

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Yeah, and the one on the like followed his shot and tipped it

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in kind of late. Yeah.

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Which you didn't look broken on that one.

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He was so up above everybody but.

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That was it. Like as far as athletic plays

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where he looked. Like an everybody else, a.

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Few minutes before that one, right?

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Yeah. He was. 4:00 to. 13 4 of 13 from

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the field, O of five from three. It was not not Yaxel at his

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best. But I will say that one thing I

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do admire about him is like he gave just about the most honest

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halftime interview of oh, I loved it.

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That was the best. He was like terrible.

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I was horrible. I feel awful.

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I feel super weak. I was like wow.

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Yeah, like normally that was brutally honest.

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There was no like athletes speak there.

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It was just all out there. I was like, that's kind of

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refreshing. I actually know what's going on.

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He was like, I got to be better. I'm terrible.

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Like I was like, wow. OK, go back in and figure it

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out. Right, so I I.

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Mean maybe do your earlier point decks if they if this was a more

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competitive game and and Michigan was struggling to stay

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in front, then maybe he doesn't play as much or something.

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Yeah, yeah. Since it never got really close,

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it's like. Yeah, if they were, if they were

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down by 4 for a lot of the game or something, then then it would

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be a really tough decision. Yeah, they pretty much kept it

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double digits the whole game. Yeah, yeah.

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I think it made Coach May's decision a little easier knowing

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that they had a lead and that they were in control most of the

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game so. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

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Another fun fact from this game, something I did not know.

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I just wrongfully assumed that solo ball was related.

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To Lonzo, Lonzo. Lonzo, I was like, they they all

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got to be brothers, right? No, no relation.

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I learned that of this game. Solo ball.

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I was wondering that the name I forgot to look it.

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Up. I was like, it's got to be.

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I was like, it's got to be Lamello.

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Yeah, you know, it's got to be the it's got to be the same.

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Nope. He's completely independent.

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Is it Jerry Ball's son? I was near the like the.

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It might be Cherry Ball's grandson.

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Grandson. Holy cow.

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Yeah, we are that old I. Butterball Tecmo Detroit

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lineman, right? No tackle I think.

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No tackle. Cherry ball he was.

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He could actually block all the kicks.

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Yeah, Butterball. Stunned cherry ball Yeah, solo

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solo ball was an interesting. I thought I was being funny

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until you told me. It's probably his grandson, not

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too old. That's so true.

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But, you know, here's The funny thing about the state of, you

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know, of college basketball today.

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The transfer portal opened yesterday I believe.

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Yeah, got it. Just I didn't know.

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Like, I was looking and I mean, Michigan just won the national

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championship, right? Yeah.

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Seems like it's like a place you would would want to stay.

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You've got a Really. You know, dominated the next

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race team. Really good.

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I and I read the headline today, there were at least four players

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on Michigan who have already entered the transfer portal.

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And I was like, what are what are we doing?

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What are we doing here? When you've got like, like this

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should be the place everyone wants to go right now.

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You got a really good coach. You just won a national

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championship like. So.

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Sure, they have plenty of money. Question on that is, and I don't

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know, I we could probably Google it right now and get the answer

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on the air, but are these only one year deals?

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Is NIL? Can it only be one year at a

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time or is that only what the players are taking?

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I mean, can we just sign you like I want you all four years

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of Michigan if you're playing here, you're my guy, like

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Braylon Mullins for UConn, is he just have a year by year?

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Is he just going to be in the portal and gone next year out of

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UConn or do they have to pay him every single year?

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I think that they just have figured out that there's no

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upside to a four year deal. Why would I do that when I could

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do a one year deal and get more money?

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Unless you're planning on getting hurt or something, yes.

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Right. But right, he's doing that.

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So it's exactly. Bad and they need to do

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something like a salary cap or a minimum of two years at a school

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or go back to where if you transfer you have to totally sit

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out X amount of games because otherwise this system sucks man.

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So here's the problem. I don't like it at all.

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Here, here's what's happened. Because the genie's out of the

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bag, bottle, bag, bottle genie's, genie's Arnold bags,

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Genie started. Bags, What are you doing with

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your genies? I.

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Keep my genie in a bag, thank you very much.

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Stay under, stay in. Because the genies out of the

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bottle are the Supreme Court ruling.

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The problem is, the only way to enforce anything upon the

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players would be if you could negotiate with them

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collectively, which means you'd have to allow them to union.

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So the only way we're going to fix this thing now, which just

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sounds gross, is to let the players unionize and then

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collectively bargain on their behalf, which is just

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disgusting. But it's the only way it can

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happen because otherwise it's just individuals making

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individual decisions and you can't stop it.

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That should go well for a group of 20 year olds.

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You know what I want them to stop saying?

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Why would? They make bad decisions.

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I want them to stop using the term student athlete.

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Stop it. Don't use.

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Students no longer applies. Here is our NBA minor team,

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Minor league team. It's minor leagues.

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This is what's happened unfortunately with college

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football and college basketball is I was never against.

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Paying them I was never. Against them getting some

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cheddar because at the end of the day, they are making

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university a lot of money. Now that said, they're getting a

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free education, which used to be like a really cool thing and

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people used to value that and say like, oh wow, I'm making a

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lot of money because I'm not having to pay for college.

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Yeah. I didn't have to go 150 into

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debt for college which. Is a baby steal now, right?

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But if you don't value the education, which unfortunately a

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lot of these players don't value the education, then then you're

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like, no, I just want straight cash.

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And I was always for like some sort of a system where like, you

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know, they're they're athletes. They have to practice all the

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time so that a lot of them can't get side jobs.

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They can't go and get a job. So if they're coming from

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someplace, they don't have any money, they don't have any

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money. So that sucks when you're making

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university tons of money and you don't get any money.

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So I was like, we should pay a stipend of some, some kind, you

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know, like like like if you were to get a minimum wage job or

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something, you should at least get that kind of money while

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you're practicing, let's say, so that you could go out and hang

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with the boys on Friday night, you know, like you.

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Want. You should be able to do that

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like a normal college kid. So I, I was all for that, but

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man, we totally opened Pandora's box and now we are in the world

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of to your point, Pruitt, I'll just say if you had given 18

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year old Brent Chisholm a $2 deal to go do

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something, anything for a year, I would be dead on the Vegas

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Strip right now. I'll just right now that is

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never going to end well. And I'm surprised we haven't

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heard more stories like that. I'm I'm fearing that we probably

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will, because let's remember those frontal frontal cortexes.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. And then when you hear like,

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like going switching over to football, this is another thing.

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I saw this article today. Jeremiah Smith apparently turned

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down multiple $10 million transfer offers $10 million.

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Multiple. Like minimum mini multi?

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Like what the heck, man? Here's the interesting question,

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when is this going to affect the pros?

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Because at some point. It's already in one.

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They're staying in college. Rather stay in college #1

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College is way more fun than going to the real world than the

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real world. So I could hang in college.

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And the thing of it is like, especially in certain.

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Positions. In South Bend for another year.

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OK, just chill out for it and hang with.

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Like, for the best seven years of my life.

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Yeah, totally. And you think about it in some

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positions, like running back. Yeah, NFL.

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It's a short shelf life in the NFL.

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Your short life, yourself life's super short and so like why not

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stay and make another 5 mil, you know?

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Especially the guys that aren't going a top ten pick if you're a

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second, third round guy, but you can get 5 million more to stay

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at Louisville for a season. Absolutely.

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Sure man, absolutely. Like I don't.

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I'll be the NFL next year. Who gave you crap?

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I'll be a 23 year old rookie. I don't.

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Mind you, would you would think that it would.

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And I, I'm I I think you could even keep the system as it is if

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there were some. I think the thing that that

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college fans Rage Against and this is the thing that drives me

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nuts too. I mean, it's a little crazier.

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We're paying that money. But what's more crazy is just

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the transferring all the time. Yeah.

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So if there was a some sort of a commitment or some sort of rule

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like you could like there used to be you transfer once, maybe

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transfer once you're fine. Yeah.

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The second time you got to sit out a year, you know, whatever

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it is. So it's like.

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Colleges in six years, those aggressive.

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And that's what you're getting now.

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Oh, I know, so silly. And, and I think part of the

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beauty of college athletics, at least from a fan perspective,

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was you can watch somebody and you can watch them grow up.

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You watch them develop. You kind of grew like you had an

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allegiance to them. You're like, man, yeah, I like

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this guy. I remember him from last year.

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And now it's just like, like, throw all the cards up and

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wherever they land. Hey now, what is your new win

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like? I saw that one of the a kid

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that's starting for Kansas started for Kansas this year.

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Dex is is likely going to transfer to Missouri He started

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for. Kansas, that can't happen.

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And he's going to transfer to Missouri and #1 rival.

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That used to mean something, right?

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Like used to like never going to do that.

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And then and then like you're going from Kansas to Missouri.

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I'm a Missouri fan. I'm a big Missouri fan.

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But like what player does that? Yeah, that's the wrong

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direction. Unless they're just chasing

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money. Yeah, I don't want an ex Kansas

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guy on my team if I'm right Missouri fan.

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Totally. But they don't even know where

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these guys are from. It's just like who's on my team

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this year? I got a guy from Arizona.

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I've got a Utah State guy. Yeah, the Holy Cross guy came to

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my team. Cool.

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Like and a lot of these small teams, they lose all of them,

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like right, that'd be just disheartening.

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If you develop a guy, he's a beast.

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You got him for one whole year or maybe his sophomore year is

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when he blows up. You certainly don't get him a

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junior, senior year, right? That just sucks for these small

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schools. And that used to be the cool

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thing that made that we talked about there not being

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Cinderella's this year. And that's really probably why,

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because those talents for guys are like, right, Except for.

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Steph Curry School down in Texas.

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You know, you look at like Steph Curry back in the day whenever

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he took, well, shoot, I just blanked their name.

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Davidson. Davidson as far as Ronnie, he

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did like it wouldn't have happened because Steph Curry

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would have transferred to Duke at that point and gotten paid a

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bunch of money, you know, So like, you're not going to get

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that those kind of stories anymore, which is a little sad.

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But the other thing that's weird is I was even like I couldn't I

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didn't even think it would be this much of an effect on the

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women's game. But like, I don't know if you

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guys remember when we were growing up the the dominant

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program in women's basketball. Tennessee, Pat.

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Summit. Tennessee and Yukon.

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Yep. Those two were like first and

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2nd every year and everybody else was like A and they're.

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Always totally beat it. Extremely.

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The last they would get would be the championship game.

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Totally Well. You know what the headline was

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yesterday? Rocky Times on Rocky Top,

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Tennessee women's basketball to lose all 5 starters plus top

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five recruit to transfer a portal.

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Wow, The University of Tennessee, they're losing all of

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their starters to the transfer portal.

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Like this is the kind of world that we have created.

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So it there's it seems like there's going to have to be some

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sort of a correction. I don't know.

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Yeah, what it is or how quickly it'll happen.

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But I do think the game will probably suffer if something

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doesn't change and then the money starts going away and the

00:19:44
money starts going away, then things happen.

00:19:47
And it's unfortunately so it's bad that it's in college like

00:19:53
this. What I think is more sad, or as

00:19:56
sad is I'm starting to see that trickle down into high school

00:20:00
and just. Totally.

00:20:01
All kinds of all kinds of sports at all ages, really.

00:20:05
What are you seeing trickle down there?

00:20:07
No money? No.

00:20:08
Money. Yeah, no money.

00:20:09
But there's no like loyalty and there's no the coaches involved

00:20:14
are all about grabbing the the best players.

00:20:17
That's right. There's there's no more

00:20:19
development. It's like who's good right now?

00:20:21
I'll take him and him and him. Yep.

00:20:23
Hey, you want to come and play on my team?

00:20:25
We won the championship last year.

00:20:27
That's right. And they come for a year and

00:20:28
then OK, well, this kids actually better than you.

00:20:31
So I'm going to take him now and it's just like a.

00:20:34
That's what travel sports is doing.

00:20:35
Travel teams is exactly that. You know, as we speak, that's

00:20:39
what it is. And the coaches are just buying

00:20:42
into that same mentality of like, I don't have to develop

00:20:45
people. I don't I'm only going to have

00:20:47
it for a year because I can re choose my team next year, right?

00:20:51
And just, it's, well, it's just like.

00:20:53
That's exactly right. Survival of the fittest.

00:20:56
And I'll tell you, Dex, you said not in high school.

00:21:00
Yes, in high school and I know that in Texas kids are getting

00:21:03
NIL deals. You have to be 17, the losses,

00:21:06
you have to be 17. But when you're going into a

00:21:08
senior year, you can get an NIL deal.

00:21:13
What There was a There was a five star wide receiver from

00:21:17
Duncanville this last year in Texas.

00:21:20
Did that just happen? I don't even remember hearing

00:21:22
about that. Yeah, yeah.

00:21:24
And they they got, they got nil deals.

00:21:27
This is going to make me mad when you tell me how much.

00:21:29
So yeah, well, one one of one of them, it doesn't say what he

00:21:34
signed for, but it said his approximate nil value was

00:21:38
$600. Wow.

00:21:40
So I go play like a private. School or they yanking him to

00:21:44
different schools too. And yeah, yeah, Origin got PO

00:21:48
Box in this transit now. I'm I'm going to jump to this

00:21:52
school because they've got the program and they're they're.

00:21:55
Wow. But I guess that's probably what

00:21:56
IMG Academy and some of these like baseball and basketball

00:22:01
schools. If they're not, they have to be

00:22:04
doing it. Oh yeah, yeah.

00:22:06
Yeah, they're like travel sports on steroids because you can just

00:22:10
like, I don't know if they're going to school either.

00:22:12
Some of them probably have been doing it.

00:22:14
Seriously, they're if they're to play school, at school.

00:22:17
I'm not here to play school at high school, man.

00:22:19
Yeah, I. I don't even want to do junior

00:22:21
high. I'll be here to do.

00:22:23
Too much work. I got to spell stuff.

00:22:26
I don't. I don't need a 8th grade health

00:22:28
class. I got basketball to play.

00:22:31
Exactly. Exactly.

00:22:32
So a lot of these nil collectives are, are paying

00:22:36
them, you know, ahead of time and, and a lot of Times Now

00:22:39
colleges are going down to that and saying, hey, we'll pay your

00:22:42
senior year if you come to, you know.

00:22:45
So there's a two year deal finally.

00:22:47
That's how you're doing it. Senior year and freshman year.

00:22:51
Good Lord, it's going to happen more and more.

00:22:54
Times pretty soon we'll be we'll be recruiting and paying for

00:22:57
kids on the Little League team. 7 year olds.

00:23:01
Hey, man. I know you're going to be going

00:23:03
into your year eight-year next year.

00:23:05
That ate you some serious stuff. You just start pitching

00:23:09
yourself. Not your 8th year of playing,

00:23:12
your 8th year of life of. Life, absolutely.

00:23:16
I know it is a Wild Well world, but all that to say, we

00:23:19
diverted, but that was a good diversion, I think good

00:23:22
conversation. But college basketball, it was

00:23:25
fun and I absolutely loved it. I but back in the day, it was a

00:23:29
bigger deal and it was definitely it had higher

00:23:31
ratings. It had a much stronger

00:23:33
following, and I think it was because of that kind of loyalty,

00:23:36
yeah, you know, people staying on a team.

00:23:38
It started to. Deteriorate.

00:23:40
It started to deteriorate with the one and done.

00:23:43
Yeah, when the NBA came in and they said, hey, we'll take a

00:23:46
play after the freshman year. Wouldn't we go back to that

00:23:48
today if we could? Oh, man, They just, they just go

00:23:51
the NBA. That's fine, that's fine.

00:23:53
That's every stupid year. That that sounds easy.

00:23:56
We what a that sounds like child's play now, but but at the

00:24:01
time that was like that was super detrimental because you

00:24:03
started losing a lot of the talent in college, you know, to

00:24:07
the, to the NBA and now they've opened up this one.

00:24:10
So it, the tournament's always going to be fun just because

00:24:13
it's the tournament and the nature of it is like, you know,

00:24:16
all packed into a few days and all this competition and

00:24:20
underdogs being and last second shots and all that stuff is, is

00:24:23
always going to be fun. But it's definitely not the same

00:24:26
as when you had these, right? Like when you had these UNLV

00:24:30
teams that you either loved or you hated or Duke and Leitner

00:24:34
and, and Bobby Hurley and all those guys that you love, you

00:24:37
hated Grant Hill, like those kind of like, like one of my

00:24:41
neighbors told me the other day he was like, man, I watched that

00:24:43
game, A championship game. And he said he said, yeah, it

00:24:46
was fun to watch. But he's like, I don't think I

00:24:48
could name 5 college players this year.

00:24:50
And I'm like, it's probably right.

00:24:52
Like it's gotten to where the people don't know the players

00:24:55
anymore because, you know, they don't have.

00:24:57
They just disappear. Yeah.

00:24:58
And they just disappear. And generally you're just

00:25:01
watching your team anyway if you have a team and unless they play

00:25:04
the other team, like yeah, I don't know.

00:25:07
And you'll know where your best player went, usually.

00:25:10
Yes, that's right when he left. Totally.

00:25:14
Yeah, it's just absolutely. Yeah.

00:25:17
All right. But, well, it's fun.

00:25:18
College basketball season, hope everybody had fun with it.

00:25:20
Hope you all enjoyed it. Made some money on betting,

00:25:24
especially if you picked Illinois to the Final Four with

00:25:26
Pruitt and you made some money. But now we're going to shift our

00:25:29
attention. Excellent.

00:25:33
Timing, Pruitt and the timing. Talk about that editing ChatGPT.

00:25:37
Check out that editing. Oh transition to your third.

00:25:41
That's. Right.

00:25:42
That was called anticipation. Human did that A.

00:25:46
Human. That's right, yo, I want to say

00:25:49
on a fiscal theme and stay, yes, go to baseball.

00:25:52
I want to stay in a fiscal theme because here's what's just

00:25:56
happened. If you are a baseball fan, huge

00:25:59
news, huge news. So Conor Griffin, the number one

00:26:02
overall prospect in baseball just signed the largest pre

00:26:08
rookie deal. I guess I don't even know what

00:26:10
it's called pre rookie deal, pre playing deal in baseball

00:26:13
history. So nine years, $140 million for

00:26:16
the Pittsburgh Pirates for their 19 year old phenom shortstop.

00:26:21
The ball accounts may be worth it, but it is a trend that is

00:26:25
started a couple years ago. Yeah, I know.

00:26:27
I hope you don't miss on that decade long signing, but I want

00:26:32
to hear your guys's take on is that a good idea?

00:26:36
Is this a good trend because multiple teams are starting to

00:26:39
do it. So Jackson Cheerio for the

00:26:41
Brewers, I think last year or two years ago, eight years,

00:26:44
82. Roman Anthony for the Red Sox,

00:26:47
eight years, 134. Colt Emerson for Seattle.

00:26:50
He's like the number two or three prospect in baseball.

00:26:53
Just signed eight years, 95 for the Mariners.

00:26:57
It's a trend, it's happening. Do we think it's a good thing

00:26:59
for baseball? Is it a good thing for the

00:27:01
players? Is it a good thing for the team?

00:27:03
What do we think? Let's just start with Conor

00:27:05
Griffin in Pittsburgh. Pru, what do you think about

00:27:08
this deal? Is it good for them, good for

00:27:10
player? What do we think?

00:27:11
So I, my first thought when I hear all these things is similar

00:27:16
to my daughter's experience applying to PA schools.

00:27:21
And the, the small schools are the ones that respond 1st.

00:27:24
And they're like, Hey, look at us, here's this great deal to

00:27:27
come and play for us. And you know, hey, we really

00:27:31
value you and all these things. And they're first in line.

00:27:35
And they have to be because they're a smaller market.

00:27:38
And that's that's the only way they can fill their classes is

00:27:42
to like grab on early what they what seems like a very lucrative

00:27:46
deal and, you know, talk to you all up that we think you're

00:27:51
great, all those kind of things. Yeah.

00:27:53
That's what this reminds me of a little bit.

00:27:56
They've never seen him play in the major leagues.

00:28:01
Right. Last year, to be fair, last year

00:28:03
across 122 games, all three levels.

00:28:06
He played 122 games. Oh wait, wait wait, This is my

00:28:08
my. My, my, so he, he went up to all

00:28:11
the levels. SO333415-ON base, 527 slug, 23

00:28:16
double S, 21 homers, 94 RBIs, 117 runs.

00:28:22
He's pretty good. He tore up the league as an 18

00:28:26
year old in the minors as the youngest player in the league.

00:28:28
So did MJ Melendez. Hey, there we go.

00:28:32
But he didn't get a nine year, $140 million deal, so.

00:28:36
That's my point. It's like that.

00:28:38
Yes, he should be very, very good and probably will be.

00:28:42
But that's a that's an extremely aggressive move by a small

00:28:47
market team that has to try to latch on to guys like Paul

00:28:50
Skeens. Yeah, to to make something of

00:28:54
themselves and build, build their team up around a couple of

00:28:57
guys now that. Ironically, they have not paid

00:29:00
Paul Skeens yet though. Yeah.

00:29:02
Right. And I think he might be too

00:29:04
expensive to even do. Too late now, Too late now.

00:29:08
Yeah. And I'll go into that in a

00:29:10
second because. I want to give you.

00:29:11
Your take on this too. So Dexter, you're saying that

00:29:13
they they should have started this trend a few years earlier

00:29:18
and they kind of missed? Their both these small market

00:29:20
teams have to do it because otherwise and here here's an

00:29:24
example. Washington lost both their

00:29:27
biggest name players, Bryce Harper and Juan Soto lost them

00:29:32
both the first time they got to a market with a deal both of

00:29:36
them left. Now here's the deal with both of

00:29:38
them. They ended up doing pretty well.

00:29:41
So Juan Soto in 629 is rookie year on a rookie deal and

00:29:45
then just by arbitration alone he went to 8.5 million seventeen

00:29:51
2331 and then he signed his contract, he makes 47 million a

00:29:56
year. So arbitration is still a way

00:29:58
where these players are going to make money.

00:30:00
And if they do that, I mean, Washington would have done a way

00:30:02
better deal doing something like this for 1:40 to lock him in

00:30:07
until he's 28 because he came up when he was 19 as well, right.

00:30:11
They'd still have one Soto. And they would have had a really

00:30:14
good deal. They would have the last few

00:30:15
years, they would have been at San Diego.

00:30:18
He would not have been in the Yankees in who knows.

00:30:21
But by the time you built that long of a connection with the

00:30:24
guy, maybe they would have stayed with you and you would

00:30:26
have gotten a hometown discount. Yeah.

00:30:27
So I think there's the players going to make money if they're

00:30:30
really good anyway. I think when you for the

00:30:34
player's side of it, why not take it if they're going to

00:30:36
offer you 140 million bucks? You've never had one at bat.

00:30:40
Oh, yeah. I mean, you're the number one

00:30:42
prospect in baseball. But how many of those have there

00:30:44
been? A lot, yes.

00:30:45
There's been a lot of #1 prospects in baseball, a lot of

00:30:47
first picks overall, and they don't all pan out.

00:30:51
There's a whole bunch that don't.

00:30:53
There's a ton that don't. I mean, Miguel Sano, you may

00:30:56
remember him from the Twins of a few years back.

00:30:58
He came up, we used the bee's knees.

00:31:00
He was the number 2 prospect in baseball behind Byron Buxton,

00:31:03
the other Twins prospect. Yeah, I dare say neither one of

00:31:07
those the pan in this perennial MVP candidate.

00:31:11
I mean, Miguelson, no, I don't think he's in the league

00:31:13
anymore. And Byron Buxton is perennially

00:31:15
hurt. But the Twins, So they may have

00:31:18
saved money by not doing these deals, right?

00:31:20
If they would have done the same with both their top prospects,

00:31:22
both top five MLB prospects in the league, they might have

00:31:25
gotten fleeced. But as far as the players, it's

00:31:29
good for them to take it, I think.

00:31:30
And it's actually good for the teams most of the time if it if

00:31:34
they hit on somebody, right? And you don't even have to hit

00:31:37
on all of them. If you hit on one out of three,

00:31:39
I feel like it pays off, right. So what do you think, Chisholm?

00:31:42
Is this something that a trend is going to continue for

00:31:45
rational sense makes financial? Sense I mean, I think it has to

00:31:49
continue to your point for the small markets because they

00:31:52
cannot get any of the big free agents when they come come do so

00:31:57
ever like like when a show when a show hey, Otani hits free

00:32:01
agency like everyone knows he's going to New York or LA Yeah,

00:32:05
and there's about. Four teams that have a shot.

00:32:08
At him that's right, the rest of us have no no prayer.

00:32:11
So I but I do think it's going to the casino and putting your

00:32:16
putting your money down on a number and like hoping now it's

00:32:20
maybe not that that risky, but if you look at OK, how would you

00:32:26
like to how, what's the deal again?

00:32:28
How many years? Nine years?

00:32:29
Nine years for so. They added the 9th year 149.

00:32:32
Year for 140, would you like to have Yuan Moncada to a nine

00:32:37
year, $140 million deal? I mean, right now, no.

00:32:40
He was the number one prospect in baseball in 2017.

00:32:43
He was Corey Seeger. Corey Seeger, Would you like to

00:32:47
have him to a nine year 100 and. 40 Well, back then, yeah,

00:32:49
because he would have gotten all nine years being pretty good.

00:32:51
Right. So that's kind of where you

00:32:54
Adlai Rushman. He's in the middle.

00:32:57
Probably in the middle, right? Jackson Holiday.

00:33:01
Yeah, don't know yet. Like, you don't know, right?

00:33:04
So these are guys. Wander Franco.

00:33:06
Holy crap. Oops.

00:33:07
Like, yeah. Right.

00:33:10
So he was paying off and he was. He would have been a deal.

00:33:14
He would have been a deal until, you know, until stuff till he

00:33:17
wasn't until stuff happens. But but you're right, like, I

00:33:22
mean, what's the hit rate is the question like what's the hit

00:33:24
rate going to be? But I think you've got to take

00:33:28
the chance you're Pittsburgh because you're not going to

00:33:32
build your team for through free agency.

00:33:37
No, they won't go there. They're not.

00:33:39
Going to steal the city. Where do you draw the line?

00:33:42
Like what? Like, I don't think LA or New

00:33:45
York have to do this as a tactic, but no, they don't.

00:33:50
Does the Saint Louis Cardinals or that's the.

00:33:52
Cubs. So there's different things on

00:33:55
this too. So you'll notice they all the

00:33:57
deals tend to stop when the players 27 or 28 right in their

00:34:03
prime. That's the peak year it.

00:34:05
Is because Jackson Cherio signed when he's 19.

00:34:08
Roman Anthony signed when he's 20, Connor Griffin 19, Colt

00:34:11
Keith 21, Luis Robert when he's 20 back in 2020.

00:34:15
So and then Bobby Witt, like our favorite Kansas City Royal, 11

00:34:18
years, 288 million, signed after his second year, so after his

00:34:22
runner up to Aaron Judge in the MVP race when he, Aaron Judge

00:34:26
went Triple Crown, no Royals. Went to that signing.

00:34:29
Yeah, but they said we put you out until you're 32, you are a

00:34:32
Kansas City Royal until you are in your mid 30s, right?

00:34:35
And we're going to pay you handsomely and 11288 that's

00:34:39
nice. That's nice.

00:34:40
And Kansas City fans are like, that's a steal.

00:34:43
Oh my God, in five years, we've been double that.

00:34:45
Totally. You could easy similar to the

00:34:47
Patrick Mahomes concert. Yep.

00:34:48
Absolutely. You could see a 10 year, $500

00:34:51
million deal for a Platinum Glove shortstop in his prime at

00:34:54
age 25, which is when he would have hit free agency.

00:34:57
Absolutely. I mean anyway please.

00:35:00
I think it's a great deal for teams.

00:35:02
I, I don't, I have yet to see a downside to players other than I

00:35:07
guess if you're a mega star you could probably make more if you

00:35:11
were holding out a shorter contract with bigger deals, but.

00:35:16
But again, to your point, like how much more do you need if

00:35:20
you're making $280 million or whatever it is, like, yeah.

00:35:26
You put that in a nice high yield savings account and you'll

00:35:28
be all right. Little market index fund and

00:35:31
you'll be hitting it all right. How many yachts does a man need?

00:35:35
If you blow out your knee, you're a three on a four year

00:35:39
deal. Yep.

00:35:40
That's a lot different scenario than if you are on the 10 year

00:35:43
deal absolutely or whatever. So there's there's risks on both

00:35:47
sides. But yeah, for most teams, I I

00:35:51
think I agree, Dax, I think you have to go this tactic to

00:35:55
compete with the the Dodgers and the Yankees of.

00:35:57
The world, but you are going to end up with some Bobby Bonilla

00:36:01
deals, right Yeah, where where you're paying for a guy who

00:36:06
yeah, I mean it's probably better than average shot that

00:36:09
you're at least going to get an above average player you're

00:36:12
talking about a #1 prospect, right but like but even for

00:36:17
injuries hit or something happens and like all of a sudden

00:36:20
you've paid a guy $170 million and he's done Jack crap for.

00:36:24
Here's another reason I like it is for the player and the team.

00:36:28
You don't suddenly have this worry about yes, playing the

00:36:32
player. Like if he's talented enough to

00:36:34
be there, you don't have to like season them in AA and AAA.

00:36:39
If they're good enough to hit play the send them on up man.

00:36:42
Hit the service time. Game that's exactly right.

00:36:45
There's no service time games when you do this, you buy out

00:36:48
service time games. That's what I kind of like, like

00:36:51
again for Jackson Cherio, I mean, the youngest player ever

00:36:53
go 2020 back-to-back seasons in his year 19 and 20 seasons.

00:36:57
Now, you may say it was not that good, kids 20, man, He's 21 this

00:37:02
year and he's hurt right now. But when he comes back, he'll

00:37:04
probably be 2020 again at 21. He'll be his third year in a

00:37:08
row. So I think Milwaukee doing it

00:37:10
and they did another one too. So they signed a shortstop

00:37:13
prospect, Cooper Pratt for eight years, $50 million.

00:37:16
So the top top ones are getting in the hundreds, right?

00:37:20
But the other guys there's and I, I'm blanking on the dude

00:37:23
Philly did it for her second baseman.

00:37:26
I think stop Bryson Stott a couple years ago.

00:37:29
And it's one that he looked like a solid deal.

00:37:31
He's been OK, but his first year was really not that good.

00:37:35
And so I don't know if you do the deal right, no one really

00:37:39
loses. I mean, is the team really upset

00:37:41
you're paying 8 million to Bryson Stott instead of 8

00:37:43
million to Juan Mankata? I mean, probably not.

00:37:46
I mean, you're going to get similar results, but one kids

00:37:48
younger with upside, the other one's not.

00:37:51
And all the time That's true. I kind of see more upside in

00:37:54
teams doing this for their top prospects.

00:37:56
I don't really see a problem at all.

00:37:59
And it's really only going to those top, top ones anyway.

00:38:02
Yeah, there's there's hardly anyone outside the MLB top 100

00:38:05
in the organization's top one or two prospects.

00:38:08
They're the only ones getting these deals.

00:38:10
Yeah, but I can kind of see it working out, especially if they

00:38:13
did it for two years like Bobby Witt did.

00:38:16
Boom, that's a. No brainer to me if you if you

00:38:20
get that kind of track record. I was shocked that Bobby Witt

00:38:23
signed that deal, honestly. Yeah, because.

00:38:26
Three years from being like arbitration alone, he would have

00:38:29
been getting 2020. He would have made a lot more

00:38:31
money, but but that also I guess probably shows a little bit

00:38:35
about like what, what do you value?

00:38:37
Because they're probably there is a point where you're like, I

00:38:40
don't need any more money and I really like playing here.

00:38:43
Yeah, yeah. That like your quality of life,

00:38:46
Like guess what, playing in New York sucks.

00:38:48
Sorry. It does.

00:38:49
It absolutely sucks. Everybody's constantly on you

00:38:52
all the time. They're booing you when you go O

00:38:54
for three. Like, you know, it's, it's a

00:38:57
super hard market to play in and they're not loyal to you.

00:38:59
They're not loyal to you. They're a very they're a very

00:39:04
transactional market. You're going to make a lot of

00:39:06
money, but they expect you to win all the time.

00:39:08
So that's, that's kind of how it works.

00:39:10
Whereas in Kansas City, you know, you you could go O for, O

00:39:13
for, for 12 and then the crowd will like stand up and cheer for

00:39:16
you to try and encourage you to get a hit the next time up.

00:39:18
You know, yeah, it's a completely different, completely

00:39:22
different ball game that you're playing.

00:39:23
There, but if you want to play for titles and championships

00:39:26
right and this is where I think it's that's why the small market

00:39:30
teams have to do it yeah cuz Milwaukee last time they won is

00:39:34
when I don't know you don't know either.

00:39:37
I don't even know if they've ever won.

00:39:38
It's been a very long time. 80 maybe I want to say.

00:39:41
No, because that was Philly and the Royals.

00:39:43
But regardless, it's so long ago.

00:39:46
We're dumping 50 years ago just to try and guess.

00:39:51
So the problem is not quite. I think we're still good.

00:39:53
It's still going to be hard for some of these teams.

00:39:55
If you're a player that is not necessarily all in on Arizona,

00:40:00
like you just don't like Phoenix.

00:40:02
It's hot as balls in the summer, like.

00:40:05
Corbin Carroll, I mean, I don't know if you'll be able to sign

00:40:08
him after he's done. I know he had a contract too.

00:40:10
But regardless, some of these dudes, if you don't really like

00:40:13
this city, if you're not a Miami guy, you love being cold, right?

00:40:17
Why would you ever want to sign a 12 year deal in Miami then,

00:40:20
right? Yeah.

00:40:20
And so it's kind of I think location's going to matter, like

00:40:23
what you said, loyalty. Do you want to be there?

00:40:25
Do you want to be there with this team?

00:40:27
And are you fine being a Mike Trout and maybe never playing in

00:40:31
the playoffs ever in your career ever?

00:40:34
Like play one stupid game your entire career and you're one of

00:40:36
the best of all time and you still can't even make the play

00:40:39
that's. Exactly right.

00:40:40
So I think you start having to weigh like what's important

00:40:43
because you see some other people, I mean, going to the

00:40:46
Dodgers, like, hey, I'd like just to play for the Dodgers.

00:40:49
Sounds good. And their pitching staff has Cy

00:40:52
Youngs on this sideline on the DLI, don't know, I guess.

00:40:57
But they say, Oh my God, you just go cuz whatever.

00:41:00
And these other the big market teams, the Cubs, Yankees,

00:41:04
Dodgers, Mets, they can flat out say screw the luxury tax.

00:41:09
They don't even care, right? And so whereas the small market

00:41:13
teams have to take a a gamble on the front, I don't even know

00:41:16
what's gambling once these guys get them.

00:41:18
Like, I don't care if he pans out or not.

00:41:20
I don't care. He could totally suck.

00:41:22
I'll just buy the next guy next year.

00:41:23
Yeah, we're never going back under the 250 million salary

00:41:28
cap. These conversations are.

00:41:30
Very. Closely related between the

00:41:33
basketball and the baseball now. No, they absolutely are.

00:41:37
They absolutely are. Staying on the fiscal theme.

00:41:39
Yeah. No, it is on the fiscal theme,

00:41:41
which by the way, side note, Milwaukee has never won a World

00:41:44
Series. They did go in 1982 and lost to

00:41:47
the. Cardinals 82 to the Cardinals.

00:41:49
Yeah, because I didn't get to go because my parents didn't want

00:41:52
to take me because it can be too late and I didn't like baseball.

00:41:54
I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:41:55
So they sit my brother in. Come on, baseball.

00:41:58
I'm like. Totally, totally should have

00:42:00
you. Totally.

00:42:01
OK, so that brings me to so interesting, Interesting.

00:42:05
It's time for some trivia. It's time for trivia.

00:42:08
Here we go. So we have a little trivia

00:42:10
sound. Pruitt.

00:42:11
It's called anticipation, Pruitt.

00:42:13
You get some, you get some clapping maybe.

00:42:16
Yay, it's time for trivia. Fine, there we go.

00:42:22
Trivia times. OK, so it's got me thinking.

00:42:25
It got me thinking about contracts and the firsts of

00:42:29
contracts. So let's play a little trivia.

00:42:31
There's some notable contracts that have been signed at certain

00:42:35
levels, milestone levels. I want to see if you guys can

00:42:37
get who signed them. We'll start really low, the

00:42:40
first one, $50, the first person to make $50 a year.

00:42:46
This is like $50 a year, you see?

00:42:49
Yeah. Or just a contract?

00:42:50
Babe Ruth. Babe Ruth Babe Ruth Babe Ruth in

00:42:53
1922 signed a $50 a year deal 100 dollars $100

00:42:59
didn't happen until 25 years later $100 in 1947.

00:43:06
Give you a hint, Play. Carl yes.

00:43:08
Berg Ski No no. Willie Stargel, He was

00:43:12
Pittsburgh, right? Yeah, it was.

00:43:14
Hammer and Hank Greenberg. Hammer and Hank Greenberg,

00:43:17
$100. That's the most obscure one on

00:43:19
the list. OK then coming along in 1979,

00:43:24
the 1st $1 contract. Anyone?

00:43:27
Anyone. $1 I don't. Know $1.

00:43:35
I will go with Reggie Jackson. Oh, that's a good.

00:43:38
Guess but it is not correct. I'm going with that guest you

00:43:41
though. Don.

00:43:43
I'm trying to think, Reggie. Jackson again.

00:43:46
Yeah, how about that, Reggie Jackson?

00:43:51
You guys, you're going to kick yourself on this one.

00:43:53
Nolan Ryan. Nolan Ryan was the 1st

00:43:56
$1. I was thinking that, but he was

00:43:58
so young then. I didn't think, well, I guess

00:44:00
that was 10 years later. He wasn't really that.

00:44:02
Yeah. No, no, he wasn't.

00:44:04
It was with Houston. It was with Houston.

00:44:07
Weird. The first $10 million contract,

00:44:11
I'll give you a hint. This was, I'll give you 2 hints.

00:44:14
This was 1996 and this guy changed his name.

00:44:20
What does you Oh. Brain cramps are killing me.

00:44:26
It hurts. It's the Cleveland guy.

00:44:29
Joey Bell. Albert, Joey Bell.

00:44:31
You got it. Nice job, Joey.

00:44:33
Brain cramped right through it. Albert, don't call.

00:44:36
Me, Joey, I was going with. I had Alex Rodriguez in my head,

00:44:42
but. Albert, don't call me Joey Bell

00:44:45
was at a He actually jumped 10, got $11 million in 1996, then it

00:44:50
started escalating the first $20 million contract in the year

00:44:56
2000. I'll say pitcher Derek Jeter.

00:45:00
Randy Johnson. This guy has the 1st 20 and $30

00:45:05
million contract. A rod.

00:45:07
Alex Rodriguez. Alex Rodriguez.

00:45:09
Head of my time. You're a little ahead of your

00:45:11
time. 20 and $30 million, is that not crazy?

00:45:15
And that happened in in 2000, so.

00:45:18
Texas was the first. Yankees was the second.

00:45:20
Then right. Yep.

00:45:22
And then if you look at some other notable contracts, the

00:45:25
first one to to hit 15 was Kevin Brown.

00:45:28
Remember Kevin Brown? Pitcher.

00:45:31
He was awesome. In Los Angeles, yeah.

00:45:33
Right from Texas, so he's the Rangers.

00:45:36
First. Oh yeah.

00:45:37
Yeah, that's right. The first $3 million contract.

00:45:41
Kirby Puckett. Minnesota Twins, I remember

00:45:44
that. So I thought it was funny.

00:45:46
I thought he was the 1st $1 contract.

00:45:48
So when he said it was 79, I was like, well man, I thought Kirby

00:45:50
Puckett did something because I remember when he signed his

00:45:52
contract is all is big news. Big deal.

00:45:54
Well, I remember. Those 3 huh?

00:45:57
When Ozzy Smith signed $1 contract and that was

00:46:00
a big deal so I thought he was the first one to do $1

00:46:03
but he was not. Maybe for the Cardinals or

00:46:06
something. Yeah, I think it was maybe for

00:46:08
the Cardinals, the 1st $1 contract.

00:46:10
But yeah, it's crazy to think that it took 25 years to go from

00:46:15
50 to $100. Yeah.

00:46:19
And then and then it took from a 1989 to 2000.

00:46:26
That's eleven years by my calculation that.

00:46:29
Is that's even public math? Nice.

00:46:30
Work to to go from 3 million to 20 million.

00:46:35
Yeah. Like that is how rapidly is

00:46:38
accelerated and now we just had a guy who has had zero Major

00:46:41
League of bats sign a deal for how many million a year?

00:46:44
140 / 9 years 9. Years.

00:46:47
A lot. So that's 100.

00:46:49
I know those aren't good round numbers.

00:46:51
On. Yeah, 15 ish.

00:46:54
It's over 10. About 18.

00:46:56
Yeah. 18 a year. 16 Something like that. 16

00:47:02
a year. What is show Hay's average?

00:47:05
I mean, I know he's making like a dollar a year right now, but

00:47:07
what's the what's the actual? It's 50A.

00:47:10
Year, isn't it? I think he is.

00:47:12
I thought it was like 60 or 70 million a year or something

00:47:15
stupid. I'll tell you right.

00:47:17
Now we're looking this up as we speak.

00:47:20
But show hates contract. Now 680 million.

00:47:25
Oh, it's 10 years, 700 million. That's right.

00:47:27
So 70. Million a year.

00:47:29
Yeah. So that's the first 70 million

00:47:31
one and? He only gets 2 million a year

00:47:33
through 2034, so he's he's. Poor, broke.

00:47:37
I don't know how he's going to make it in that LA market.

00:47:40
Right. That's crazy.

00:47:41
And then 68 a year through from 2034 to 2043 when

00:47:47
he's no longer living in California.

00:47:49
That's crazy. Well, I just think we have a new

00:47:52
world we're living in with contracts and NIL, our rookie

00:47:58
deals in baseball trying to save the markets.

00:48:00
I don't know if NIL it's not saving small markets in college

00:48:04
or at all. It's kind of the polar opposite.

00:48:07
So it's kind of weird that two different things.

00:48:09
But that's why I was wondering, can we do some contracts for

00:48:13
multi year NIL to keep these small schools at least possible

00:48:17
even though they'll be the ones gambling though, like you were

00:48:19
talking about before. That's right, because you're

00:48:21
taking the high school senior out of whatever.

00:48:25
Yeah, right. And unless they went to the IMGS

00:48:28
or like the big freaking I don't even sweatshops, high school

00:48:33
hoops and baseball and football, you're not going to know if

00:48:36
they're tested. They just go to a normal public

00:48:38
high school in a normal big city and they play loser teams.

00:48:43
There's a lot of play. You want to like, go to school,

00:48:45
loser? There's a lot of great high

00:48:49
school basketball players that are have never played against

00:48:52
other greats and that's exactly right.

00:48:54
May fold. Find out quick.

00:48:56
Yeah, when you get into that, that's a situation.

00:48:58
It's a completely different ball game, right?

00:49:00
So it's crazy. Yeah.

00:49:01
Super interesting. Well, that's a this has been an

00:49:06
incredibly financial episode of the Shrewdness and I think we've

00:49:10
done a pretty darn good job of, yeah, of breaking down, you

00:49:14
know, contracts, doing public math, talking about. 15.5 is

00:49:19
what that translates to, by the way, my my calculator. 15 point

00:49:23
for Mr. Griffin. Yeah.

00:49:25
Who's? 19 and doing all my team.

00:49:27
That's 16 point. Five.

00:49:30
That's a lot of a lot of dollar signs per at bat right now when

00:49:34
he's. No pressure on your son, Pruitt,

00:49:36
but you can tell him that Conor Griffin's making 15 1/2 billion.

00:49:38
Yeah, and you're only a year or two away there, little buddy.

00:49:42
So let's start working on the swing.

00:49:46
What, what I don't want to, what I don't want to calculate is how

00:49:49
much more that is than what I've made in my career.

00:49:52
Oh God. Right.

00:49:54
Yeah, just the one year, the signing bonus, right, There's

00:49:58
all of our lifetime earnings in a sitting.

00:50:01
Bonus. I do not wish to calculate that

00:50:03
tonight. No, let's stop talking on there.

00:50:05
For a kid that's a third of my age, almost.

00:50:08
OK then, so now that we're all properly depressed, I'm going to

00:50:11
go midlife crisis myself a Camaro or something tomorrow?

00:50:16
I love it. See what happens?

00:50:17
Let's do it. Might as well.

00:50:19
All right, Jen. So I think it's going to wrap up

00:50:21
this week's episode of the shrewdness.

00:50:24
As we get closer to the NFL draft in two weeks, we're going

00:50:28
to do a little. Can't.

00:50:30
Wait. Prep show talk about kind of

00:50:32
who's slotted to go where and sure you can look at Mel Kiper's

00:50:36
list and if you want to do that, But we're going to talk about

00:50:39
like specific teams, what good fits look like where we're

00:50:42
excited to see some of these players go because there's a few

00:50:45
we are very excited to see where they go and there's I got to

00:50:48
believe there's going to be some day one trades happening.

00:50:52
Oh yeah, always, always. Especially some of these teams

00:50:55
have kind of gotten themselves bonus picks in the last little

00:50:58
bit with the trades. I think there's going to be some

00:51:01
fun stuff. So we'll we'll get into that.

00:51:03
We'll talk some more baseball. We may or may not do some

00:51:06
intermittent Royals only previews.

00:51:08
So we still like talk about them so much.

00:51:10
We'll probably just do like some individual episodes on those.

00:51:13
So stay tuned for that, but thank you for staying with us

00:51:16
today. I hope you found it interesting

00:51:18
talking some nil, some championship game wrap up and

00:51:21
this kind of the the new state of small market baseball teams

00:51:24
with having to do with their prospects to keep them in the

00:51:26
organization. I don't think it's it's it's an

00:51:29
interesting future. We'll see how it pans out with

00:51:31
some of these teams. But congratulations, Conor

00:51:33
Griffin, way to go. Proud of you.

00:51:34
Good luck in the in the future here.

00:51:37
Paul skins God, how much would he get?

00:51:40
I don't even want to know me. It might be too much.

00:51:43
They don't even want to pretend to offer it.

00:51:45
That's right. That's.

00:51:46
Going to do a half a billion but we.

00:51:47
Know we can't afford you, but we'll try this other kid who's

00:51:51
never played before. Exactly.

00:51:53
Exactly. All right.

00:51:54
You guys got any other closing comments?

00:51:56
Nope. Glad.

00:51:56
To be here. Thanks for joining guys, always

00:51:59
good to hang out all. Right, guys, next week.

00:52:03
All right, so enjoy the week and just stay shrewd.

00:52:06
Stay shrewd. Everybody.