Episode 82: Goodbye Arrowhead
The ShrewdnessDecember 29, 2025x
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Episode 82: Goodbye Arrowhead

The Shrewdness reacts to the breaking news of the Chiefs move to Kansas.


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Hello, shrewdness. Merry Christmas to all of you

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out there. We've got a great show lined up

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for you, so I want to throw it over to Chez.

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Sad thing to talk about, but it's reality.

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This is for all the Chiefs fans, even if you're not.

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The third oldest stadium in the NFL was announced this week will

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be no more. In 2031, Arrowhead will be no

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more. One of the in my opinion, yes,

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I'm biased, but if you've ever been there, you'll agree.

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Shrines and professional sports is going away.

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The Chiefs announced they're moving to Kansas and the stadium

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will open in 2031. Dex Prue, what are your takes?

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Man, so it will not be the same. So the tailgating and having the

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two stadiums in the same parking lot with the Royals and Chiefs,

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that's been there since 72, right?

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It's been there a hot minute in this atmosphere.

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It is no other man. It's the loudest outdoor stadium

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in sports. They built it different, man.

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It's just the acoustic can't get louder anymore because it's

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illegal to build a stadium like that.

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So we're automatically going to have to put a roof on the stupid

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thing in Kansas to make it just as loud as our current stadium

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is. It's tough losing great venues.

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Losing Arrowhead is kind of a little piece of our childhood,

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man. It's Arrowhead, and I hope they

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at least keep the name. Don't turn in some derpy ass

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Sprint Center or something dumb. Yeah, which wouldn't be

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sprinting more because they whatever, you know what I mean,

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Don't corporate it, Arrowhead. Yeah, they don't.

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They just don't ruin it any more than what you already did.

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But. Well, they've already.

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Chances. Turned it into They've already

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turned it into GEHA field at our open.

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Stadium. No, it's still arrow.

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Bouncers do, yeah. Right, they're paid too.

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Yeah, I, I did it. That's when my wife brought it

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up to me and was like, hey, did you see the article on this?

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And I, I already had, she's like, what do you think?

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And my, my first thought was, it's sad.

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I'm, I hate to lose the atmosphere.

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Like you said, the tailgating is unbelievable.

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I've had. 2nd to none. Quite a few opportunities over

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the last 10 or 15 years to go to a couple games a year and it's

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it's always an incredible atmosphere, lots of good

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memories in that stadium and the one next door, yeah.

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At the. Totally Kauffman.

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So which? It'll be the.

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Man, that's next. That's.

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All I, which sounds like Kauffman is on the chopping

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block and and that's probably headed headed to Kansas as well.

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This is what when I read it this week, I was struck with a couple

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things. One, reminded very much that

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this is a business and that it's all about the money.

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And if it were my business, would I take the money?

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Probably. But it's it's just sucks from

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the sentimental side of it. This is where I think all of us

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remember. I remember going to my first

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Chiefs game there, watching the Chiefs play the Browns, Derek

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Thomas getting multiple sacks, just an incredible venue and

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falling in love with the place. Like it was the first time that

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I truly was like pro footballs. Awesome awesome.

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Like. Super bright green turf at that

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time. Yeah, like it was just something

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else. The thing that maybe makes me

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the most sad is the roof. Like I love freezing cold

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Arrowhead games. I love that alive a lot of

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memories at like cold Arrowhead and that being an advantage for

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the Chiefs like the the the the sound, the freezing cold when

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you get the playoffs. Like in Miami coming down,

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let's. Go right right like that is.

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Jacksonville, let's do this. Now we're in climate controlled

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roof, you know, stadium. Here's my hope more than

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anything. Listen, there's some stuff to

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get excited about as a Chiefs fan.

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Cool new stadium, new staves are cool.

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New staves are cool. They're fun.

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Trinkets, whatever do not cut the heart out of chiefs nation

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here. The thing that they really have

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to chief's Kingdom. Really they need to keep as much

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as humanly possible of what makes Arrowhead special.

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So make sure that you throw in those kind of nods in the

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design. Make sure that the acoustics are

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as loud as possible. Make sure that, you know, you're

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trying to hold as much from a tradition standpoint, the drum,

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all of those things that happen for the game.

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Make it really easy to tailgate at, make it a great place to

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tailgate. Those are things you got to do

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when you're designing it. And I hope they don't mess that

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up. Yeah.

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But at the end of the day, it's still sad.

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And, you know, maybe it's this old guys, maybe this is 350 year

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old guys talking about a stadium, but, you know, stadiums

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are where memories are made. And, you know, part of the

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shrewdness, collectively, our memories are, I remember going

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to a Monday night game or Sunday night game with Pruitt in

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Arrowhead. Monday night against the

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Patriots. Patriots, we got our butts

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kicked. But man, it was it was, it was

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awesome. And you know, those are the kind

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of memories that you make and the kind of core memories that

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you have. So it is a big deal and it is.

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Missouri had their chance to keep it.

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Missouri didn't have as much money as Kansas right now.

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So I get it, but overall we wanted to give a shout out to

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it. Any other parting thoughts on a

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depth of Arrowhead? I just thought about this, but

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with with a roof. There's no more parachuters

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coming into the stadium. There's no more B2's stealth

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bomber flyovers. No, which is all part of they do

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the experience. It's so close to Whiteman Air

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Force Base that that was at least once or twice a year

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they'd fly. The BB2's felt over and totally

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like to see you man. So what they can't ruin too, and

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this is what they ruined in Minnesota or they ruined it, is

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seat licensing fees. So for all these guys that had

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season tickets for decades, like their whole life, they made it

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like $25 per seat additional to the season ticket price which

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is also going through the roof to pay for the stupid ass

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stadium. So they took away everybody's

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season tickets, the. Diehards.

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And it gave it to all the rich and like, I'm not one like I'm

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not talking rich corporate like you had.

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To be got your corporate. Ola to be able.

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To afford seats. SO3M and Best Buy would buy the

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seats. That's not how it's supposed to

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be. That's not how I buy the sweets

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man Go ahead. That's why they can be

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expensive. That's who owns those.

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But don't screw the fans, especially the ones that have

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had them since 1972 and have been literally passed down in

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wills and trusts. You're going to That is a pretty

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crazy. Color deal and that's.

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That's a great point, Dex. That's a great point.

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And you know the contrast, living here in Dallas like I do

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when I go to Cowboys games, that's what you have.

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We call it the white collar sports fans.

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It's the guys who are corporate. It's all corporate tickets,

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people going entertaining. They don't care about the game

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really. They're just being entertained.

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Super expensive. And that's why it's not loud.

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You go to a game at you go to a game in Dallas, it's not loud.

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There's not really in the atmosphere.

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It's cool stadium, but it's like, you know, you go to you go

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to places like Green Bay, you go to places like Chicago, you go

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to places like Arrowhead. They're blue collar fans.

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They're guys that Buffalo, same thing in Buffalo.

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I'm afraid that's going to happen there too.

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But like those are the fans that give you that that kind of

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advantage and that atmosphere that people come and want to see

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and they want to be a part of it.

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Even when that's even when the team's bad, Arrowhead sells

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because of the experience. So I I get what they're doing.

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I understand the Hunt family. I understand it's a dollars and

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cents game and that and they're playing the game, but just just

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know it's sad for all of us. I what I want and here's

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something I'm going to challenge the shrewdness.

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We're going to go to it. I'm putting this out there and

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the guys don't even know this, but we're going to a game

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sometime in the next couple years for the shrewdness.

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We'll do some kind of like, you know, look around Arrowhead.

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We'll give some stuff like that. You know, in the last few

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seasons we're going to soak up Arrowhead shrewdness will do

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some of that, go to a game because hopefully the Chiefs

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could come back, make another run under Mahomes.

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It would be cool for the last five years of Arrowhead to be a

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Mahomes. 5 years of winning and then he rides off into the

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sunset. That would be pretty awesome.

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So hopefully some great memories are made there.

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But Arrowhead, regardless if you're a Chief fan or not, is

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incredible stadium. And if you haven't been, please

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go. I don't care what kind of fan

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you are. I don't care if you hate the

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Chiefs. Go experience five years their.

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Team play there, who cares? Watch any team play there.

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It's a blast. It's unbelievably fun.

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From a personal standpoint, they're moving about 20 minutes

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away from my house instead of, hey, 45, so that'll make it a

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little easier to get to the games.

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That's not bad. And their practice facility is

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like across the street from where my kids used to play.

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Soccer. So it's all, I mean they

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basically have already kind of been signalling to this, right?

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Yeah, they've already got bots picked out close to the

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racetrack. If anybody knows where the

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Kansas Speedway is, Yeah. Which is a cool area.

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It is cool it. Is it's a cool area, it will be

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a cool area that. It'll be cool.

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We'll, we'll love it 10 years from now.

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Yeah, the first couple years we might be a little salty about

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losing my Arrowhead and all that, but.

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Right. No, we'll see.

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But it'll it's a new stadium, it'll be bright and shiny.

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Yeah. They've got some cool stuff in

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it. They should also model.

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The best new stadium I've been in and it's not even close is

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Atlanta. So everything they've done with

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Atlanta stadium is the best and it's not even close.

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Dallas sucks the the Vikings, the bank.

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It's not bad, but it's like a it's like a low tier version.

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This thing is is the next year too.

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So Atlanta did theirs and then the Vikings.

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The Vikings is so much worse. If you just compare the two.

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Do it just like Atlanta. Make sure you have all the

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things they're doing, specifically the concessions,

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specifically the viewpoints, the the place where you can stand

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and watch the game from anywhere.

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Make it a because it's still loud as a good environment in

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Atlanta. Yeah, I think that's what you

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need to do. So walking.

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Around Please don't make it crappy in a corporate box

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because the Colt Stadium's not that cool.

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Either. Now there's two, there's two

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major companies that design stadiums like this.

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Yeah, and, and they're both in Kansas City, so they they ought

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to come up with some pretty cool design.

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They should. The other thing I want to bring

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up because I don't think we've mentioned it yet is it's a $3

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billion stadium, something like that.

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And 1 billion of it is from the Hunt family.

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Like they're they're they're private paying a billion dollars

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toward this new stadium that is. And the other, the other two

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billion is tax revenue and whatever.

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I don't know all the the details but it's like 60% publicly

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funded and 40% privately funded. Maybe they won't do the seat

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screwfy and ruin generations of season.

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Six. Hopefully not.

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I mean. Right, They they said something

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about the, you know, fan experience is why they're is

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what they're shooting for and all that.

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So I'm hoping that you're right Dex, that they they're true on

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that. I mean, the the Hunt family has

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has been pretty good with fans and understanding what they

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need. So I'll give them a little hope.

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I'll give a little hope there. But $3 billion is it's more than

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the GDP of a lot of small countries.

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St. Lucia.

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St. Lucia was 2 1/2 billion last

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last year. So that gives you some idea of

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how much they're spending on this, on the stadium.

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Yeah, yeah, sure. What's the what's the price tag

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of buffaloes, do you know? But they just fill.

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Let me Google that. There's not doing a Dome though,

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right? I thought there's an outdoor

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right? I think it is still outdoors.

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It's a partial roof or something.

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It's like. I think, yeah, I think they've

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got like a. Stands but not the field.

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It's got a large canopy and radiant heating is what it says.

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So I think it'll be, it will be open air, it does say, but it's

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gonna have the canopy kind of like some soccer stadiums in

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Europe do. And then the price tag is 2.2

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billion for high mark, so it will be 5.

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Point $2 billion of stadiums going up.

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Yeah, right. And then The thing is Nashville,

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so I was in that game. Are there?

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Yeah, Yeah. This week it's right next door.

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And it looks just like it's bigger than the State.

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It looks like you could eat it. And it looks like the Lucas

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Field for the Colts. It's a massive, massive, huge,

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yeah. Roofed box.

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And that's. Where the box?

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Is gonna be playing and I don't know, like I said. 2.2 billion

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for that one by the way dex new Nissan stadium.

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So the outdoor stadiums are all going away is what it seems

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like. Thank God Buffalo just said no

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way. We're gonna at least make yeah,

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we'll have Lambo and maybe Soldiers feel, but I feel like

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if they get a new field, that will be a Dome.

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I mean, if you're an NFL fan, do you not love?

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Do you not? Love outside stadiums if you're

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NFL fan. Oh, it's so bad.

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I feel snow. Games and rain games and you

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know. Cleveland, you're still gonna.

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Have fan and The thing is when you go in here in your 20s and

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30s, rain games aren't that bad and cold games aren't that bad.

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No like I want domes now I. Want to raise?

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Your comforts. What right that's?

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What it is, right? Well, everybody else to go in

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their 20s and 30s and suffer it up and yell really loud, take

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their shirt off when it's 5°, That's fun fun.

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I always thought Minnesota missed out.

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I feel like they should have open air because that would be

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the ultimate home field advantage of Minnesota.

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As cold as it gets there, you would destroy some teams.

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Yeah, so they had the Metrodome, but then for the two years, I

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think it was getting built for the new bank.

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They played at TCF Stadium for the Gopher.

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Yeah. And if they didn't just come

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back and have a huge advantage, they made the playoffs both

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years. Yeah.

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Then had devastating defeats. Flair Walsh, the 19 yard field

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goal wide left. Yeah, and all the TikTok videos

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of people in snow boots kicking it through from the same things,

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like Blair Walsh. It's not that hard.

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And it's one of those things that, yeah, that's what you get,

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right? It's the open air is super fun.

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Just you know, when it's all going to be domes, Everything

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going to be domes at the end of the day.

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And like you said. Prove.

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Is there Philadelphia? Is there?

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There's. There's a handful, but it's

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becoming so few. With a Dome, it will give Kansas

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City a chance to host the Super Bowl.

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That's exactly. That's what they're aiming for

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right there. Concerts and venues and

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everything. They will I.

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Mean. There's a good chance they host

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the Super Bowl within the first four years of the stadium being

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there. Yes, they will definitely get

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one. They will get 1, and that's what

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they're aiming for. They want College Football

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Playoff games there. Yes, they want NFL Super Bowls

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there. They want huge concerts.

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They want World Cups. They want all that stuff.

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Yeah, that's what they want. So I get it.

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I get it. And just so you guys know, the

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most expensive stadiums out there, the you know what the

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most expensive stadium built has been?

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San Francisco one because it's so expensive in freaking

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California. But.

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Maybe you mean LA this one? Yeah, LA.

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Yep. LALA is $5.5 billion.

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Holy cow. So that's stadium.

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What's? The one in Vegas.

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Allegiant Stadium in Vegas, 2 billion really, which I have

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been to, and it is a very, very nice stadium.

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I like it a lot. All right.

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Check it out. Thank you guys.

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listens and forwards. It really does mean a lot.

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Appreciate it. Merry Christmas.

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Happy Holidays. Enjoy time with the family,

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enjoy watching some football this weekend.

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