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Hello shrewdness fans and welcome to the show.
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We are so excited because we are finishing our Guillotine ranking
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segments tonight. We're going to be talking about
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the wide receiver position the most.
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The Divas, Yes, the Divas. And the one that that there's
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one bajillion of. There's a bajillion.
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There's always a receiver. There's always somebody who's
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out there and who could catch a huge touchdown for you.
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So we're going to, as you guys have known, if you've, if you've
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listened to the other previews, if not, please go back and do.
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We're going to go through our tiers of wide receivers tonight.
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The ones that we think are for sure starts, you don't have to
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ever worry about. Just plug and play them every
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week. Tier 1, Tier 2 guys that we
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think are above average and have a good shot at breaking out for
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you. Tier 3 getting a little dicey
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but startable and then Tier 4. Those are called bye week
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infinite. Share.
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That's exactly what that is. So we're going to go through
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those tonight. Before we jump in though, I will
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point out that you know, since there are technically one
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bajillion wide receivers, we are not going to be able to cover
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all bajillion tonight. So please make sure that you
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check out our website, which we'll be posting and on our
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social media talking about ad nauseam over the next few weeks.
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You'll be able to find our rankings there.
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You can print them out, take them with you to your draft,
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utilize them in that way, and they're totally free to you.
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So you should absolutely take advantage of this incredible
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You're going to win your league because of these rankings so.
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There's there's not much in life, so we're going.
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To highlight stuff. There's not much in life that's
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free, but this is free. That's right.
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Those strings attached. Asking for nothing.
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All you got to do is follow us. That's right.
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That's all you got to do. So we're going to start off PA
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dog. The Pru is going to tell us the
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consensus rankings by the shrewdness pros and what we all
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have in our consensus top tier. So Pru, over to you.
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Yeah, so top tier wide receivers, lot of value here, a
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lot of high scoring. These are the guys that have 8
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catches and a touchdown for 100 yards.
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Sometimes they'll go off and you'll have a Jamar Chase game
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where he has three touchdowns and he gets your 40 points and
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wins you the the week by himself.
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So I like these are the guys that you should absolutely
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consider it an honor to have them on your team.
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Our our picks. Yeah, you'll get one as long as
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you're in the top half of your draft and.
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You pick a white out first. Yeah, you have one shot, You
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have one shot at most of these guys.
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So our our picks line up pretty well with fantasy pros.
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Our top seven we are calling Tier 1 receivers.
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Jamar Chase is by far and away the number one overall.
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Yeah. And to be honest.
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Prove before you go into the rest.
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Like when we say we're even with fantasy pros, we're not trying
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to be. It's just when they're obvious
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at the top, they're obviously the top on every list you go to.
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But even in Geo for high floors, guess what?
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The best guys have the highest floors.
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So if we will go way off the rails down the list, but the top
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part, so we're kind of comparing.
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It's not like, hey, we're just goes fancy Bros.
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Not saying that, we're just saying it's there's.
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A consensus up top. Yeah, I didn't, We didn't say it
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already, but we do hide the averages from fantasy pros while
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we do our rankings just to try to avoid that bias.
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That's right. We put them at in afterwards to
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see how we line up. In most cases, especially in
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tier one, we line up pretty closely.
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Jamar Chase, I mentioned #1 Justin Jefferson, Kuka Nakua.
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I'm on Ross St. Brown for Detroit CD Lamb, Nico
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Collins and Drake London sneaked into my personal a Tier 1.
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He was I guess I had seven overall.
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We had six that we liked. You can drop off Drake one in
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there, but Nico Amanra CD lamb, Justin Jefferson, Puka Nakua and
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Jamar chase any any surprises or missing ones Dex we.
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Might be missing 1. Dex thinks we are.
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I think we are for sure Malik neighbors.
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He's on mine and he's he's up there pretty good.
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But Malik neighbors, feel free to keep him in your top tier
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because he's in mine and I think he's going to be real good.
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But Drake London is not mine. That's probably our swap right
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there is Drake London, Malik neighbors.
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Not that they're far off. I think we have like two or
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three spots different, but it's just, I don't know.
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I mean, you're trusting either Michael Pinnix or Russell
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Wilson, so not much difference there, right?
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Like, Oh my confidence. Level is so much higher with,
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yeah, you can't stay with a straight pace really, right?
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But they're both going to be target, just they're going to be
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getting a lot of them. So they're going to be leading
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the teams. So that's the one little kind of
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difference on. Those our next, our next two are
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Malik Neighbors and Drake London for our overall rankings.
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Yeah, so they're all right there together.
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But talk about Drake London. So you have them in your top
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tier, the most trusted, I mean first round worthy in your
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opinion. Tell us why.
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Give me some goods. Yeah, so if you look back to the
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last year, Drake London finished fourth in the overall wide
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receiver rankings. The first thing I noticed when I
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look at him is he had two top five finishes for high scores in
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a week. The other thing that I
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immediately noticed is that he has one dash, meaning the only
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game he didn't play well, it's his bye week and that is a huge
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help. I've said it before, I think one
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of the most, well, we said it last on our last episode even
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the best ability is availability, right?
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So when you're picking a number one wide receiver, you want a
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guy that you can pretty well count on to be in there every
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week. You don't have to think about
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it. You know, you're going to get a
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good performance and he's going to be available.
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So I I kicked him up partially for that reason.
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He also had a ton of targets last year, different
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quarterbacks throughout the season, I guess mostly Kirk
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Cousins, but I think that they'll still treat him as a
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huge part of their offense and they're not going to throw the
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cow pits. So who else they going to throw
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to you? Till they do, this is the year,
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this is the year. That's right.
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And I, I will say Drake London, he's been on a bad team for a
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while and he's really good on a bad team.
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So you got to give him his props for that for sure.
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So just going down the list, Jamar Chase, we're not going to
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talk about him. He's awesome.
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He's probably the top player off the board.
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Triple Crown winner last year. Sounds good.
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Draft Jamar, Chase, Puka Nakua, Similar story.
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He doesn't have Cooper Cup anymore.
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Oh, no, he just has Devante Adams.
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So he's still going to have someone to take a he's going to
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be a double team, either of them.
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Yeah, he's going to keep getting fed by Stafford.
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I mean, if I have any weirdness is that Stafford has a bad back
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and I hope it's just something you.
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I hope it's not lasting because Jimmy G is the backup over there
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in Saint Louis. All right, Los Angeles guys, not
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the Saint Louis Rams anymore. That was the what is the battle
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Hawks are playing in Saint Louis.
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You gotta get them. All right.
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So hookah, he's going to be awesome.
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Justin Jefferson, don't need to say much about him.
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He's going to be great. No.
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What about you got JJ McCarthy knowledge numbers might go down.
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They had Sam Darnold last year, man.
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He is quarterback proof. He did it with Josh Dobbs.
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He's done it with having so many random ass dudes just.
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To say I will say it, JJ McCarthy looks pretty solid in
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this, his first preseason game. Yeah, I don't want to get too
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too lovey dovey on it, but JJ looked pretty good.
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He looked fine. Yep.
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Yep. And then the other thing you
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have to consider is, unfortunately, Jordan Addison's
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gonna be out the first three games.
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So that's going to up TJ Hawkinson and Justin Jefferson,
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at least for September. And then we'll see who ends up
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taking that second wide out role.
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There's a couple guys it could be, but we'll talk about them
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later on, especially as we get close from the depth charts,
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start getting locked down. CD Lamb, don't need to talk
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about him much. He's awesome.
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He's amazing That Prescott's going to be back, and that's
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going to be a humongous jump means CD Lamb last year, God, he
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had just a terrible. Quarterback and CD Lamb.
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I had him. This is one of the ones that I'm
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a little divergent from you guys.
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I have him #2 over all my lists. And yeah, it's mainly because he
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had 7 top 15 finishes in last year's season with Cooper Rush
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throwing him the ball so. Kind of a borderline MVP.
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It's gonna be some quarterback controversy.
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It really is. It really is.
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So I, I am assuming, given how simpatico he and Dak are, that
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that is gonna, that is going to really heat up his numbers are
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going to increase even more this year.
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So I like him a lot. But you're right.
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All those guys in that top tier are like ridiculous.
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If you get any of them, you better get them because.
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Yeah, so one thing that was interesting to me, so I brought
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up to Peru, I like what's up, bro?
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Why do you not have the league neighbors in your top tier last
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year #2 in the NFL in targets behind Jamar Chase?
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Triple Crown guy was none other than Malik Neighbors.
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So he had 170 targets. He brought in 109 of them for
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1200 yards and seven touchdowns. And he missed a couple games.
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So he would have had more. He had more targets per game
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than Jamar Chase. And that was with Daniel Jones
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for half a season and then DeVito, Tommy DeVito for the
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rest of the year. And are you kidding me?
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He still had that much of A pole in the offense.
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Russell Wilson's better than those two guys.
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So I think Malik Neighbors is going to be huge this year.
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Again, when you're on pace for over 10 targets per game, you
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are the offense. So yeah, I just think he's going
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to have a humongous year. He's absolutely my top tier
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because just getting fed, you keep getting fed every single
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series, there's going to be one or two balls to you.
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And so I think that neighbors can be huge.
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That target number is a big deal.
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It's huge guillotine because you just want opportunities and.
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There's some guys. That you're going to start at
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wide receiver who are going to get maybe two or three balls fed
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to them the whole game and you got to hope they convert on
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those. So when you get a guy that's
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getting 10/11/12 thrown to him, that's a big deal.
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Absolutely. And so closing out our tier
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again, I'm in Ross St. Brown.
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The sun God. Yeah, the sun God, will there be
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a drop off with Ben Johnson leaving, going to Chicago?
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There's still going to be a good offense.
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He's still going to be the main one moving the chains.
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He's has such a high floor again for Guillotine.
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That's all you want. I think he's for me.
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He's at the bottom of these, these top tier guys because the
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other ones just get so many more and right.
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It's just tough. There's more mouths to feed in
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Detroit than there is in New York.
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And right Dallas, I will say George Pickens.
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So CD Lamb might come bounce down a little bit, but he's
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still gonna get his. I will say this is a crazy stat
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on him though. I mean he had 141 targets last
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year, which is still a lot, but is is low for the top tier.
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Yeah. So he had 141 targets and he
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turned that into 115 receptions. Yeah.
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So that is a very, very high conversion rate, 115 for it's,
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it's 81%. That's not that's that says a
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lot for him and Gough being on the same page, him running his
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proper route like he's where he's supposed to be.
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Like there's a lot of things that you can read into that.
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But that, that is very impressive for a guy that gets
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that many targets. It's the highest.
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It's the highest by far of anyone with that kind of
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quantity. Yeah, of balls thrown his way.
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And it's two straight years for Amarasi Brown.
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So he had 12 touchdowns last year, 10 the year before.
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He had 115 catches last year, 119 the year before.
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So, I mean, good Lord, you're averaging 117 and 11 touchdowns
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over the past two years that. And I'll play.
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It in the top tier, man, you're you're very trustworthy, high
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confidence. You're gonna do something every
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week. You'll be part of the offense.
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I'm in Ross St. Brown.
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So the last one we have in our top tier, Nico Collins and you
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might go wow, Nico, huh? That's a stretch, but I don't
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think so. God, he's so good when he plays.
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And the problem with CJ Stroud last year is that Nico got hurt
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early. And I know a lot of you players
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out there did the same thing we did.
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You tried to ride Nico on your bench because you weren't quite
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sure when he was going to come back.
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Hey, what's up? Proof.
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Yeah. And in the meantime, you just
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tried not to get get your head chopped off because he's so good
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when he plays. And so far, so good.
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He's healthy, He looks good. There's no way he's not going to
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be an awesome target to have on your team barring injury, but
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there's no reason to believe he's going to get injured.
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There's no lingering effects that they've mentioned anyway.
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I mean, maybe. There's some, but.
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It's not public if that's the case.
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So I think Nico Collins is going to bounce right back and be
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really, really stinking good again.
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He's top ten in the league every single year.
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He's healthy. So I think there's that's right.
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When you have someone like that, you go and take your risk.
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All right, so let's jump into to Tier 2 Peru and this world will
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start kind of having some more discussions on guys who could
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have some upside, some to worry about, and then yeah, we'll just
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go from there. So who do you like in Tier 2?
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If you can just kind of go through like a who's in this
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tier for us? Yeah.
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So I'll list them out quickly. There's there's more.
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Obviously the tiers start getting bigger as the the talent
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pool kind of gets watered down out of you after you get out of
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that first elite group, right. So overall, we had neighbors in
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London at the top of our Tier 2. Brian Thomas, junior, another
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solid rookie from last year. He had a great, great year.
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Devante Adams, A.J. Brown, 82 year old.
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Was it Chisholm? MM Evans.
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Ageless Mike. The ageless Mike Evans set for
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another good year in Tampa Bay. Jackson Smith in Jigba for
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Seattle AT Higgins. Terry Mclaurin, provided he
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plays. Yeah.
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Ladd Mcconkey, Tyree Kill, DK Metcalf, Marvin Harrison, Junior
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Easy for me to say Courtland Sutton, DJ Moore, Garrett Wilson
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and Xavier Worthy cracked our Tier 2 rankings this year.
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That's. Right.
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It is so we are like more than two times, almost three times as
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many people in this tier because these are all the the really
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goods still. So they're not the ones banging
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out 115 receptions and double digit touchdowns and 1400 yards,
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but they're the ones right there.
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They're they're Next up. And so these guys you can count
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on to be all 1000 yard receivers, 80 plus receptions at
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minimum. And they will they're going to
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be targeted in the end zone. These are all good dudes.
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Nothing. You're not going to be able to
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get one of these in every single league, every single team,
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especially in Gio, these first 7 or 8 whiteouts will be gone.
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Like if you don't, if you're a 15th, 16th, 18th pick, you're
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not getting those guys. So these are the dudes you'll be
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looking at? Yes, and.
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That's just the. Way Geo works is there's 18
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people per hour. Right.
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So these guys are going to start looking really good, really
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quick. Yeah, but you can probably get
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two of these guys and that's the whole deal.
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So I think let's just kind of start at the top.
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We already talked about neighbors in London.
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We like them. They are borderline or in our
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tier ones for some of us. But Brian Thomas Junior,
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Chisholm, I think you had him on your team last year or at least
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you talking him up a little bit. Give us a little bit of Brian
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Thomas Junior. Junior and I think this is a
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make or break year for his quarterback.
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So I think because Trevor Lawrence is really needing to
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have a great year, he's going to go where he has trust and I
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think Brian Thomas junior is that.
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The other thing I like about Brian Thomas junior is his yards
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after the catch. He had the 7th most yak yards in
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football last year. There was only 1-2 wide
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receivers that had more yak yards than him last year.
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So he was third in yak, which means, you know, he doesn't have
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to have a long ball to make something of it.
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He had 562 of his yards after the catch last year.
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So I really like what he does with the ball.
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He doesn't have to rely on a deep one.
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And he's also somebody that's easily targetable in the red
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zone. He had 10 touchdowns last year
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and Jacksonville didn't score that many touchdowns.
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So that's a really good number. So there's a lot to like about
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him, and I think he's going to continue to develop.
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He's still young, got a lot of upside.
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I just thought of one other thing related to him.
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There's no more Evan Ingram in Jacksonville.
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Yeah, that's another great point.
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Evan Ingram, that's another great point.
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Caught a lot of balls for Jacksonville and he's no longer
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there, so Ryan Thomas Junior is going to be even more of a focal
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point. Yeah, that's a really good point
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actually. And I mean, now there is the the
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specter of Tori Hunter. I'm sorry.
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Don't. That is my favorite baseball
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player, just because he's your neighbor and you get to go have
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schmoozing with Tori. Let's talk about.
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Travis, I said it number one, guys, I.
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Said it number one. I saw T Hunter I immediately.
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Appreciate it. And he's a.
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Absolutely. A shrewdness fan.
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So of course he is so number. 48 out there.
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There is the specter of Travis Hunter sitting there who is
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going to catch the balls, But you know, at the tight end they
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have strange that's going to be a lot of targets out of them.
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And then at the running back position, you got ETN and Tank
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and Tooting and a whole lot of I don't know.
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So if I'm Trevor Lawrence, I'm throwing the ball to Brian
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Thomas Junior and or Hunter Travis that is.
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But I like Brian Thomas's experience in that case.
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So here's the other thing about Brian Thomas, just again for our
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high floor. So the reason he is the top of
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my Tier 2? He had 10 games where he
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finished in the top 20 receivers last year.
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So wow, that is pretty Dang good.
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In fact, it's one of the best out of all whites.
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And it's what? Consistent.
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That's what Chiz was just talking about.
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Who else is Deborah Lawrence going to throw to, right?
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And if he gets open, guess who is going to?
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So Travis Hunter will probably help.
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Think I'm going to be less double teams there will be this
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year. Yeah, it should help.
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So I think it might even make him better.
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We'll see what happens. So Brian Thomas junior high
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floor, he's going to be fed the a lot.
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All right, give us another one that you like, Peru, out of this
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tear. Looking down through there, I
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think Mike Evans is AI mean. He just keeps getting older but
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he keeps turning in good performances.
00:20:02
I wouldn't hesitate to to pick him again.
00:20:05
I had Ladd Mcconkey on my team last year.
00:20:08
I know you guys are are thinking Jim Harbaugh is going to run the
00:20:11
ball 93% of the time. And never throw the ball.
00:20:15
But Lad Mcconkey was, I mean, he was a solid choice last year for
00:20:20
Justin Herbert. I love Lad.
00:20:22
I think he'll continue to be, you know, an offensive weapon
00:20:26
for those guys. So I think he's another solid
00:20:29
choice. I like both of those guys.
00:20:32
Evans is one that I do have to highlight.
00:20:34
He missed four games last year, so he effectively played in 14
00:20:41
and in six of those games he finished in the top ten in wide
00:20:45
receivers. So when the dude plays, he's a
00:20:49
big number. He is getting a little older, so
00:20:51
you're a little worried about the the durability and is he
00:20:54
going to be able to keep going. But man, he's so good.
00:20:58
I really like having him and, and honestly, you know, I feel
00:21:02
like Baker's getting better as a quarterback.
00:21:04
So that's good. And I agree with you too, Brew.
00:21:06
I don't know that it's a bad, it's a bad pick to to look at
00:21:10
Mcconkey because he's very reliable.
00:21:13
And of all the guys in that team that you're going to throw to,
00:21:15
I'd be looking at LAD. They can't.
00:21:18
I mean, they can run the ball probably, I don't know, 40% of
00:21:23
the time, 50% of the time I'm first down.
00:21:26
If they don't, if they're not successful, I mean, teams are
00:21:27
going to know they're going to run the ball and who else have?
00:21:31
They got they're going to be. Forced to throw the ball at
00:21:33
times, right? Even if they tend to run,
00:21:37
they're still going to throw the ball your other.
00:21:40
Options are dizzly at Tight End and Quentin Butterfingers
00:21:43
Johnston. Drop the ball all the time.
00:21:46
Stone. Pause.
00:21:46
Johnston Stone. Pause.
00:21:48
Yeah. Yeah, because Mike Williams, he
00:21:51
retired and then Trey Harris is their rookie and.
00:21:54
Some say he retired before this year, but.
00:21:58
Yeah, there's something to that. But I mean, The thing is, I
00:22:03
think Trey Harris is someone that could kind of jump into
00:22:05
that spot. And yeah, they could.
00:22:07
They came out of Ole Miss. They I think they want him to be
00:22:10
the number 2 and Quentin Johnson's got to try and stave
00:22:13
him off, which means catching the balls that come to you.
00:22:15
So we'll see what happens, right?
00:22:17
But I like Trey Harris on the Chargers and I think he's going
00:22:19
to help Lad Mcconkey again. When your best guys don't have
00:22:23
to get doubled all the time, it helps them get open, helps them
00:22:27
get more targets. So I think that's a good one.
00:22:29
All right, so a couple that I like in here is the poor man's
00:22:33
almond raw this year. I'm just pure going to go
00:22:36
system. So DJ Moore in Chicago this
00:22:38
year? Yeah.
00:22:39
I don't know how you go to really anyone else.
00:22:42
Roma Dunze is there. Got it.
00:22:43
Luther Burns, a rookie out of Mizzou, he's going to be in the
00:22:45
slot. And they got Colson Loveland and
00:22:49
they got Cole Commet. It's a lot of mouths to feed,
00:22:52
but DJ Moore I think's going to be kind of the engine of the
00:22:54
wide out crew and I think he should get the lion's share of
00:22:57
the targets and maybe. So your point on DJ decks, like,
00:23:02
another thing to like about him. You know, I mentioned Brian
00:23:04
Thomas, Junior's yak. One of the two wide receivers
00:23:07
with more yak than him was DJ Moore.
00:23:10
Yeah. And DJ Moore had 966 receiving
00:23:13
yards last year, 588 after the catch.
00:23:16
Wow, That's great. So that was that much.
00:23:19
He is truly a guy that's like, you know, making something
00:23:23
happen after he gets the ball. So I you're right, a lot of
00:23:26
mouths to feed, but I do like DJ more.
00:23:28
I do too. And then normally I don't like
00:23:31
#2 who's this early? So Devante Adams and T Higgins
00:23:34
are both guys that are going to be on phenomenally good passing
00:23:38
offenses and man, it's hard not to like them.
00:23:41
So it's it's easy to get 2 guys over 1000 yards on the same
00:23:46
team. It happens all the time.
00:23:48
I don't feel worried at all about that.
00:23:50
I mean, T Higgins is one of those guys.
00:23:51
Again, he can have those duds, but he's got a lot of
00:23:55
game-winning weeks in them too. So as far as the high floor, he
00:23:59
doesn't have the Jamar Chase high floor, but he's going to be
00:24:02
pretty targeted. He's going to be #2 on the team
00:24:04
easily and targets Devante Adams, same thing.
00:24:08
Sally Cooper Cup was terrible last year for the Rams, and the
00:24:12
year before him and Puka were just fine.
00:24:14
Again, it happens. It works.
00:24:17
So Devante Adams is awesome. Think of him in the two role on
00:24:20
a team. Yeah.
00:24:21
Who's going to cover him? Good luck.
00:24:24
Good luck covering him with your.
00:24:26
Second, yeah, I like that lot. And I think Devante Adams
00:24:29
probably, I like him again, he's right towards the top of my Tier
00:24:32
2. I think he's going to be really
00:24:34
good. But normally the second wide
00:24:36
outs is always. Let's not forget he has 1000.
00:24:39
He had 1063 yards last year. So in Vegas, in the pretty good.
00:24:46
Right. Aiden O'Connell and company.
00:24:50
And then Aaron Rodgers, a shell of himself, right?
00:24:56
Yeah. So it's kind of weird, but he's
00:24:57
he's had the experience of kind of playing with other good white
00:25:00
outs. So Garrett Wilson's obviously
00:25:01
really good. So Devante Adams, I don't think
00:25:04
he's going to. I just don't think his
00:25:05
production is going to go down that much.
00:25:07
I think Matt Stafford's really good.
00:25:08
I mean, obviously the Rams offense is elite.
00:25:11
I think Devante has a good season.
00:25:13
One of the other ones I want to hit on.
00:25:15
I just want to get your guys's take.
00:25:17
So I've got him on here. We all have him on here.
00:25:19
He's the bottom of our Tier 2. Is it just cuz we're Chiefs
00:25:22
people that we like Xavier Worthy in our second tier or is
00:25:27
he got it? Does he earned it?
00:25:29
So Chisholm Xavier Worthy, tell us why he belongs in this list
00:25:34
where we have him in Tier 2. Yeah.
00:25:36
I mean, for me, this is a lot about, but Patrick Mahomes
00:25:41
protection. And so everything you're seeing
00:25:45
out of camp for the Chiefs this year is that the left tackle
00:25:49
position is significantly improved and Mahomes is getting
00:25:54
a lot more time. If that is the case, yeah, that
00:25:57
is a big problem for defenses and it's a big problem for
00:26:01
defenses for a guy against a guy like Xavier Worthy who has deep
00:26:04
speed. So I think, you know, for the
00:26:08
past two or three seasons, Mahomes hasn't had the time to
00:26:10
throw the deep ball and. A lot of screens a.
00:26:13
Lot of screens, a lot of short crossing routes, that sort of
00:26:16
thing. I could see him definitely
00:26:20
getting a lot more deep chances this year and that's why I like
00:26:23
him a lot. And the Chiefs are going to
00:26:25
throw the ball. They're going to they're going
00:26:26
to put up yards and air. And I feel like Xavier is
00:26:30
probably because Rasheed's. Going to be spin status.
00:26:34
And he's gonna be suspended for five or six games.
00:26:37
So like, he's the one, he's the guy right now.
00:26:41
And and he's got the ability he showed last year.
00:26:44
So I like him a lot. And I and I, we, I do feel like
00:26:47
we did a pretty good job of taking out the homerism in this
00:26:49
one, You know, to have our number one Chiefs wide receiver
00:26:53
all the way down in the 20s, like low 20s.
00:26:58
So I do think he's definitely worth a look because he's a one.
00:27:01
And like Dex said, there's some twos that we've got ranked
00:27:04
higher than him, but he's going to get fed the ball.
00:27:07
Yeah, Pat Mahomes top target is worthy of being a Tier 2 wide
00:27:11
out. You cannot coach speed right,
00:27:14
And that's just a that's right. The more time Pat Mahomes has in
00:27:18
the pocket, the more time Xavier Worthy is going to be breaking
00:27:23
free of his man. So I that's right.
00:27:26
Yeah. It's a good doesn't.
00:27:27
Slump. That's right.
00:27:29
Just nice. That's a good, good spot for.
00:27:32
Him really fast guys Pruitt I want to get your opinion because
00:27:36
you've got him. I think higher than oh you and
00:27:38
chosen about the same, but I got him lower.
00:27:40
But Tyree kill mean again, short memories.
00:27:43
Two years ago he was in discussion for MVP with 1800
00:27:47
yards, 100 and what, 20 catches or something stupid and double
00:27:51
digit touchdowns. And last year we know what
00:27:53
happened to Miami. They just collapsed under
00:27:55
themselves and was quarterback and they were just terrible.
00:27:57
Jalen Waddle terrible, Tyreke terrible.
00:28:00
The only bright spot was John Hugh Smith and they got rid of
00:28:03
him. Yeah, you're out.
00:28:04
We. Have we have Tyreke?
00:28:06
Do you feel confident he's going to bounce back to the two year
00:28:10
ago form? Well, frankly, the previous five
00:28:12
before that means really good. Or is he going to be more akin
00:28:15
to last year? Like where do you?
00:28:17
Have a. Confidence meter.
00:28:19
I don't see him bouncing back to where he was two years ago.
00:28:23
But again, he's still got elite speed, elite quickness.
00:28:27
He's got one of the more accurate quarterbacks in the
00:28:29
league if he can stay vertical. So I just think there's
00:28:33
potential there. I think too many people are
00:28:36
going to write him off and say, you know, he was terrible last
00:28:39
year. He's on his, on the decline of
00:28:42
his career, whatever. I think there's going to be
00:28:44
value that you could get him in a, a good spot where if he gets
00:28:48
hot, he's a, he's a guy that can take a 3 yard catch and turn it
00:28:51
into a 80 yard touchdown, right? So he can.
00:28:53
Make it a house call. Pretty.
00:28:55
Cool, yeah. Absolutely.
00:28:56
They've still got he's. Still got the speed.
00:28:58
He's still got the speed that I and that's The thing is like the
00:29:01
thing the big fear with Tyree was always like when he loses
00:29:05
1/2 a step, he's done because he's not a big guy.
00:29:07
But but I've been impressed with Tyree.
00:29:10
Outside of his mental acuity, he has an incredible ability.
00:29:16
To father kids, he. He does and and go 120 miles an
00:29:22
hour in 30 mile an hour zones. But he also has had a really,
00:29:26
he's really become a good wide receiver.
00:29:29
Yeah, like he catches everything open.
00:29:31
We were talking about catches, Yeah.
00:29:33
How many drops did he have last year?
00:29:36
It was not. Many.
00:29:37
Like 3. Less than 3.
00:29:39
You were three. Tiny.
00:29:41
It was 2. 2 drops, yeah. And 123 targets, I mean, that
00:29:47
is, that's a lot. 81 catches, 2 drops.
00:29:52
That's yeah. And everybody and everybody
00:29:53
talks about how bad a season was.
00:29:55
I mean, still had 900 and 59159 yards so and six tutties.
00:29:59
So I mean, that's that's not awful.
00:30:02
No, I do. I think he'll do I think he'll
00:30:05
be better than that. I do.
00:30:06
I think he's gonna have a better year than that this year and I
00:30:09
don't I haven't seen the drop off yet in his speed and
00:30:11
quickness. I think he's still got a couple
00:30:13
more years in him. It you're right though, Dex,
00:30:16
this all comes down to like if Tua can stay upright, right?
00:30:20
Yeah, if one hit away from being terrible again.
00:30:24
That's the. Problem with and now it's Zach
00:30:26
Wilson back there who's terrible and Quinn yours who's not ready
00:30:30
yet so. It'd be.
00:30:31
Terrible again if he gets hurt. Yeah, Zach Wilson is not good.
00:30:35
I totally agree with you. But I will say the guy does have
00:30:39
a good arm. And we're talking about a guy
00:30:41
that can that has breakaway speed.
00:30:44
I mean, if you Chuck, Chuck the ball down the field far enough,
00:30:47
Tyree cannot still outrun people.
00:30:49
So there's it's just there. You're not?
00:30:53
Yeah. Outrun anybody and when he gets
00:30:55
hit and it won't even have to be hard, he could get pushed in the
00:30:58
back and trip over the yard marker and like bump his head on
00:31:03
a pen and he's the dumb man. That's so true.
00:31:07
The other thing I like about is not always the wide.
00:31:10
Outs, but the quarterback, yeah. The other thing I do think
00:31:13
about. Him, though, is, is the fact
00:31:16
that Johnny Smith's gone? Yeah.
00:31:18
And that, you know, Johnny Smith took a lot of balls last year.
00:31:22
And now we have Darren Waller. Yeah, right.
00:31:26
I don't. I for whatever reason, I don't
00:31:28
think Darren Waller's going to take the same number of balls
00:31:30
that Johnny Smith did. So yeah, I feel like this is
00:31:33
going to be a situation where there's going to be more
00:31:36
opportunity for him to get get fed too.
00:31:38
Yeah, I. Think there's some value of
00:31:39
Tyree kill at the end of the day.
00:31:41
All right, a couple more of us getting hit on.
00:31:43
So Marvin Harrison junior, does he take the step up this year?
00:31:46
What do you think? I I don't know.
00:31:48
I I still think McBride takes the majority of the offensive,
00:31:52
you know, past attempts. But Harrison does flash
00:31:56
brilliance on occasion, right? He had a, he had a couple of
00:31:59
great weeks last year. I was looking at him.
00:32:03
But he had a lot of gooses. Lot of duds.
00:32:05
Yeah, that's. The part that kills you
00:32:07
especially. Problem is one O 3 and then one.
00:32:12
Yeah. And then a few weeks later, one
00:32:14
O 3 again. We talk about high floors and he
00:32:17
is not. That no, that's.
00:32:19
The problem with that, that's why I was wondering, do you
00:32:21
think he's going to pick up? Do you think there's like some I
00:32:24
don't? Know he has the talent to pick.
00:32:26
Up, I know, but Arizona as a team going to do it.
00:32:30
No, that's. The problem as a coordinator and
00:32:33
head coach and the system, the scheme, I just I don't know I'm.
00:32:38
Not I don't think so. I don't, I don't.
00:32:40
I don't think Tyler Murray in general likes to throw the ball
00:32:44
down the field. I think he's too.
00:32:46
I think he's too short to be frank.
00:32:49
Like, yeah, it's just tough to see, right if you're 6 inches
00:32:52
shorter than your offensive line standing right in front of you
00:32:56
and you're not out of the pocket.
00:32:57
I agree it's hard to see the field.
00:32:59
So I I think he's going to rely on for target.
00:33:04
Yeah, yeah. I think he's got.
00:33:05
I think he's got. He's one of those guys that
00:33:07
he's, I think we've got him correctly ranked, but you have
00:33:12
to understand when you draft him, you're going to have yo-yo,
00:33:15
yeah. And that yo-yo is going to be a
00:33:18
little frightening. So if I draft Harrison Junior,
00:33:21
I'm drafting somebody really steady.
00:33:24
Yeah, with him, that's. What he's he he.
00:33:26
He could have some wins for you, he could win wins for you, but
00:33:30
he's also going to have a nothing.
00:33:31
And so you need a lad Mcconkey or somebody who's going to get
00:33:34
fed consistently, you know, on their team along with him, Yeah.
00:33:38
Ideally I'd like Marvin Harrison as my second white out.
00:33:42
Agree. Oh yeah, really?
00:33:43
Good that way, yes. So if he's your one, you better
00:33:46
stack up like exactly what we're saying.
00:33:48
Find another high floor guy. All right, so Speaking of guys
00:33:51
that they're pretty darn good on their own, but do you trust them
00:33:56
to be your number one? A.J.
00:33:57
Brown and DK Metcalf, they're both in our tier.
00:34:01
I mean, to start out, I like A.J.
00:34:03
Brown more than DK Metcalf on confidence level, even though I
00:34:06
don't think Jalen Hurts is a great quarterback per SE.
00:34:09
And whatever, go ahead and fleece me.
00:34:11
I, I, I'm fine with it. I'm not the only one.
00:34:14
I think he's a great athlete and he he makes throws when he needs
00:34:16
to. But as far as arm talent, I
00:34:20
don't know. But A.J.
00:34:20
Brown still makes it work, right?
00:34:22
And Devante Smith and even Dallas Goddard, they've all been
00:34:25
very valuable fantasy pieces. A.J.
00:34:28
Brown, I think he's gonna have another good year.
00:34:31
I just. Yeah.
00:34:31
And I don't know if I had one of them as my number one
00:34:34
necessarily. What do you guys think on him?
00:34:36
He's super tough because he's. He's on a great team, Yeah.
00:34:40
He's the one receiver and you know, he has #1 talent, yeah.
00:34:47
But but he's like just a little bit frightening because he's
00:34:53
just like he's been hurt a lot, which is which is scary.
00:34:57
When he's in, though, he's really good.
00:35:00
Yeah, 6 * 10 finishes last year, Yeah, I mean.
00:35:03
And I think he missed like probably 3 or 4 weeks.
00:35:06
Yeah, he missed a month. So he played week 1 and missed
00:35:08
234 and five and then came back and he was third overall that
00:35:11
next week. Like wow, right.
00:35:13
And then 6th so so. And the other, the other issue
00:35:17
is there's just so much stinking talent on that team.
00:35:20
Right. It's like Juan Barkley, you have
00:35:22
the league. Sago and Barkley, Devante
00:35:25
Goddard's gonna get some touchdowns, and then, of course,
00:35:27
you're gonna get the the tush the.
00:35:30
Then Jalen takes a lot by himself.
00:35:32
Yeah, yeah. So that's the tough part.
00:35:35
I mean, I don't feel bad with A.J.
00:35:37
Brown on my team, but I don't, I don't think I would like him as
00:35:40
a one this year. Yeah, on my team. 66 top 10
00:35:44
finishes out of the 14 games so pretty high floor.
00:35:49
I can tell you he is madding. It's it's madding as a fantasy
00:35:56
coach. I guess I'll call myself
00:35:58
manager. Manager.
00:36:01
Yeah, Manager. Coder.
00:36:03
I like trainer. Fantasy Trainer.
00:36:05
I train these guys. They know me, they respect me.
00:36:07
So I needed, you know, a very doable number of points, eight
00:36:12
points or something to to hold off and, you know, stay safe on
00:36:16
one week. And for whatever reason, Jalen
00:36:21
Hurts just will not throw to him sometimes.
00:36:24
Yes. And it was, it was clear like a
00:36:27
slant in the red zone. He's wide open and Jalen Hurts
00:36:33
throws some fade route, you know, low percentage throw to
00:36:36
the back of the end zone to somebody else.
00:36:38
I'm like, why would you not target your #1 receiver on a
00:36:44
slant? Does that.
00:36:45
Though who's open? Who's open?
00:36:47
Who's? How is that not your first read?
00:36:49
Right, I just so. Let's get back to her, to
00:36:52
Dexter's point about hurts. Like, I, I think it's just he's
00:36:56
just, he's not that good of a quarterback.
00:36:58
I understand he won a Super Bowl.
00:37:00
He's a good. Fan that like that he's going to
00:37:03
score a lot of points for you from a face standpoint, but
00:37:05
like. I think there's.
00:37:07
Play. I think there's a lot of like
00:37:09
head butting just just personality conflict between him
00:37:12
and A.J. Brown, and the two of them just
00:37:14
don't get along great. They made a big deal about that
00:37:17
last year and I think it shows up.
00:37:20
Yeah. From time to time.
00:37:22
I agree with you. The big question I have is Dex,
00:37:25
do you think A.J. Brown has the book on the
00:37:28
sideline this year? Is it the same book?
00:37:30
Does he go with the different book to switch it up?
00:37:32
I think he's gonna have a new book.
00:37:33
What's the book? Situation.
00:37:35
New book? New book?
00:37:35
Yep. Surely he's finished it by now.
00:37:37
I mean, yeah, I would like to think he motors through a book
00:37:40
more than one per year, and maybe he's got something else
00:37:44
he's got cooking for him. So we'll see what it is.
00:37:46
I'm excited to see what it is. And you know, I mean that book
00:37:50
quadrupled in sales by showing. It Oh man, yeah, absolutely.
00:37:54
We need to get him to hold. We need to get him to hold a
00:37:56
shrewdness T-shirt in his teeth coming out soon, people.
00:38:00
Shrewdness. That's right.
00:38:02
Yeah. So.
00:38:02
The other one I want to hit again, DK Metcalf, The other
00:38:04
one, guys got all the talent. I love DK, but you kind of love
00:38:09
to hate him too because he's the one.
00:38:11
Oh my gosh, a couple years ago, if you remember, he was just
00:38:13
having so many bad weeks in a row.
00:38:16
Like I'm pinching him for this Thanksgiving game.
00:38:18
He's the Kyle Pitts, Yeah. And then he's the Kyle Pitts and
00:38:21
the wide receivers. Like 3 touchdowns, 190 yards and
00:38:26
10 catches. Whatever you guys remember, you
00:38:28
watch things. Oh my gosh.
00:38:29
So a lot of people had him on the bench.
00:38:31
Like the start percentage that particular week was low because
00:38:34
he was killing you for like the previous month.
00:38:37
So that is DK Metcalf in a nutshell.
00:38:39
But that was in Seattle. So I don't know.
00:38:41
I mean, Aaron Rodgers is throwing to Garrett Wilson and
00:38:44
Devante Adams last year. He's feeding them.
00:38:47
And so I like to think DK is going to get fed in Pittsburgh.
00:38:52
But boy, Aaron Rodgers, how old can you go?
00:38:56
I mean, let's just see what's up.
00:38:57
How many darkness retreats can you go to and still have it in
00:39:00
the next season? Because to be honest, if you're
00:39:03
truly honest with yourself, even if you love Aaron Rodgers, he
00:39:06
didn't look very good last year. And I don't know if he's gonna
00:39:09
look better now. I don't know.
00:39:12
So. I'm a little worried about that
00:39:14
too, but I will say I do like DK better than Austin because I I
00:39:19
think, you know, Austin's more long ball reliant.
00:39:23
Yeah. And I don't think that Rogers is
00:39:27
gonna throw the long ball nearly as much as he used to.
00:39:29
So DK DK is probably gonna get more of the targets and we've
00:39:33
all seen the freak that DK can be.
00:39:36
I mean the the anytime I hear his name I automatically go to
00:39:39
the interception play where he. Like, Oh yeah, awesome.
00:39:42
Track that dude down. It was like like a, it looked
00:39:45
like a high schooler playing with like elementary school
00:39:48
kids. And he is, he is that much of A
00:39:51
freak when he wants to play. Do yourself do yourself a favor
00:39:56
too and and go look for the YouTube video of DK Metcalf.
00:40:01
Vertical jump? That's ridiculous.
00:40:04
Just see what shows up. It's.
00:40:05
Insane. It's.
00:40:06
Insane that commercial, I think it was last year, right, for the
00:40:08
NFL kind of get you pumped up and he's going to catch it in
00:40:11
his ABS. Like, how about I just catch it
00:40:13
in my ABS? Yeah, yeah, that's DK, man.
00:40:16
But The thing is. So here's why I probably won't
00:40:19
have DK on my team this year. In guillotine, 2 top, actually
00:40:26
one top five finish, two top 10 finishes all season, two top 10
00:40:31
all season. And we just talked about, I
00:40:34
mean, even AJ Brow. What about 6?
00:40:37
Only yeah, only three in the top 20.
00:40:40
Yeah, it's just. And again, is it Seattle?
00:40:43
I don't know. So we'll find out what it looks
00:40:45
like in Pittsburgh, but it gives you a pause.
00:40:47
That's a totally fairpoint. That's a totally fairpoint.
00:40:51
You don't know exactly what you're going to get every week.
00:40:55
I agree. So the highest ranking you had
00:40:57
after a week, like 9 or 1024? Yeah.
00:41:03
So he had all his good weeks in the first seven weeks.
00:41:07
Yeah. And then he missed a few and
00:41:09
then he came back and was not great.
00:41:12
So yeah. But Jackson smelly and.
00:41:13
Jigma, on the same team, had four top 10 finishes for Seattle
00:41:16
last. Year, Yeah, Yeah, that's right.
00:41:18
So. Can I say 1 I don't like and I
00:41:21
have him ranked pretty high. Yep, but I don't like him.
00:41:27
I have him ranked this high on ability, but I don't like T
00:41:31
Higgins and here's why I don't What do we?
00:41:34
Usually call him T Effing Higgins.
00:41:37
T effing Higgins OK, but here's the here's the reason I really
00:41:42
don't like T Higgins. He just signed a deal.
00:41:45
He's fat and happy now. I do not see him.
00:41:48
I did not see him as an incredibly motivated guy before
00:41:51
he signed the deal. Yeah.
00:41:53
And they just paid him a lot of money.
00:41:56
Now. I had to put him where I put him
00:41:58
in the rankings because he finished fourth, second and 1st
00:42:02
in three different weeks last year, which is which is really
00:42:06
good. Right and #2 wide out for. 6 and
00:42:10
and he's yeah, he's on the same team as Jamar, right?
00:42:13
So. And, and he had like 6 or 7 top
00:42:17
20 finishes. So like, he puts up the numbers,
00:42:20
but I get the alarms, the Spidey sense going off with this guy
00:42:25
when it comes to a guy who doesn't feel like a guy who just
00:42:27
loves to go out and play no matter what.
00:42:30
And I think being fat and happy is a bad thing for T Higgins.
00:42:33
So even though I've got him in Tier 2 and I think he's a Tier 2
00:42:35
talent, I think I'm going to drop him down lower on my
00:42:38
personal draft. Yeah, I can see that.
00:42:41
And again, he also has that the weekly deal if it's a if it's a
00:42:46
Jamar Chase game, it ain't AT Higgins game.
00:42:49
Yeah, that's right. It's weird.
00:42:50
But then there's a times where they just triple Jamar and say
00:42:53
this guy will not beat us. And then T Higgins, he'll have
00:42:56
his 10 for 1:20 and he'll be awesome.
00:42:59
He's really talented. And the fact is on the big
00:43:00
contract. So Joe Burrow is a big part of
00:43:03
making that happen. Like, he went to that for him.
00:43:06
So I'm hopeful that T Higgins is gonna like, pay that back by
00:43:10
being on the field and playing hard.
00:43:12
But then again, it's just, it's just TF and Higgins.
00:43:16
When you're the guy, you just don't always feel great that
00:43:18
he's gonna deliver for you. It's just a hunch I have on him
00:43:22
and I could be totally wrong, but let's let's let's move down
00:43:27
to Tier 3. Yeah, we're we're we moved to
00:43:29
these tiers guys again, like tier 3 is not horrible.
00:43:33
You get your you're gonna have a couple of these guys on your
00:43:36
team, but we're gonna highlight a few that we really like in
00:43:41
Tier 3. We won't talk through all of
00:43:42
them. We're gonna highlight a few of
00:43:44
them that we say hey, based on like what we've seen and some of
00:43:49
the data that we've analyzed, like these are guys that are
00:43:52
better taking the bet on than some of the other Tier 3 guys,
00:43:56
so. Can I give a, can I give a
00:43:58
shameless plug? Yes, absolutely.
00:44:00
All right. This, this is a good tie in to
00:44:02
our segment that we'll do throughout the season.
00:44:05
And this information will be on our website.
00:44:09
This is where you're going to find strudeness sleepers.
00:44:13
Right. That's right.
00:44:14
T3, maybe even T4 Tier 4, these are the guys that maybe are not
00:44:18
on everybody's team. They're probably on most teams,
00:44:22
maybe not everybody's team. These are the guys that on any
00:44:25
given week they've got a good match up or whatever.
00:44:27
Throughout the season, the shrewdness members here will
00:44:32
will OfferUp our best bets for the week for a shrewdness
00:44:35
sleeper, a guy that we're pretty confident can can get you the
00:44:40
points you need for that week to survive.
00:44:42
And this is this is the tier where you're going to find them.
00:44:44
So if you haven't paid attention, now is the time to
00:44:48
wake up. This is the this is the meat of
00:44:50
where you can win your draft right here.
00:44:52
Yeah. And and compete throughout this.
00:44:54
Will be the difference. You're right, this will be the
00:44:56
difference in a lot of them is like these are the guys that if
00:44:58
you can get guys from these tiers that perform, you're
00:45:01
probably going to win that week and in advance.
00:45:04
So Speaking of that, I know that you've got one highlighted here,
00:45:09
Dex, that I wanted to hear you talk about, and that was 1
00:45:13
George Pickens. Yep.
00:45:15
So George Pickens, I think the change of scenery and change of
00:45:19
system and change of quarterback is only going to do him right.
00:45:24
And he's going to be opposite. Now, CD Lamb in a should be a
00:45:29
very potent Dallas offense if they run it correctly.
00:45:33
Dak Prescott's back, he's he's going to be good.
00:45:36
I mean, again, he could lead the league in passing.
00:45:38
It's not even outside the realm of possibility.
00:45:41
Now, the fact is CD Lamb is going to get a bunch of those.
00:45:43
But like we've already talked about, the number 2 can be
00:45:46
really good on these teams. And George Pickens has been
00:45:49
fighting through it as a one, getting double teamed all the
00:45:51
time in Pittsburgh his first couple years.
00:45:54
I think he could blow up on the opposite side of CD Lamb and
00:45:58
he's a game breaker. He can make some really good
00:46:00
plays and he's going to be playing against the the second
00:46:03
best corners on the team instead of the best and he won't be
00:46:05
double teamed all the time. So I think George Pickens has a
00:46:08
chance to have a really good season.
00:46:12
He's kind of diva ish man. He's that's if I've got a fear,
00:46:15
it's that he's going to he. Is he's mercurial?
00:46:18
He's mercurial, boy. He is the definition of
00:46:22
mercurial, so. He's in a He's definitely in a
00:46:25
Devante Adams. He's like a poor man's Devante
00:46:28
Adams. In my mind, he's in a very
00:46:29
similar situation. That's exactly right.
00:46:32
So I think he's got a chance to have a very good season.
00:46:34
So I like George Pickens this year.
00:46:37
One other guy I want to talk about in this tier, I think we
00:46:39
all kind of like him because he's highlighted for all of us,
00:46:41
but I want to have a little deal on him is Tedarola McMillan.
00:46:45
He's I think the only rookie we feel really good about starting
00:46:49
at wide out. And it's because he's wide
00:46:51
receiver one on a Bryce Young Panthers team.
00:46:55
He's going to have, again, the lion's share of the targets.
00:46:59
And we keep talking about high floors.
00:47:01
You get high floors, we get targeted all the time.
00:47:03
And Tedaroa McMillan is a guy that can be targeted a lot.
00:47:07
He catches a ton. Came out of Arizona State of
00:47:11
Arizona, Arizona State, Arizona what?
00:47:14
Arizona State. Of Arizona.
00:47:16
And he was. A somewhere in Arizona.
00:47:18
That's right. And the school he went to, he
00:47:20
was very highly coded. The highest prospect ever to go
00:47:24
there. That's the highest recruit.
00:47:26
So I I like McMillan a ton and it's it's he's going to have a
00:47:29
good system like we talked about in the quarterback episode for
00:47:32
Bryce Young, Carolina is a team I think could do really well and
00:47:38
outperform expectations. So Thielen's going to be the
00:47:40
number 2 Xavier Leguette in the three in the slot.
00:47:44
And again, he's a rookie last year and underperformed.
00:47:46
And Thielen was out for a chunk of that year too.
00:47:48
But if you have all three going, plus Jalen Coker, who doesn't
00:47:52
suck, Hunter Renfro, who doesn't suck, Trimble, who Chisholm
00:47:55
highlighted in the tight end episode, that's a lot of good
00:47:58
weapons. Plus Chuba Hubbard, Rico
00:48:00
Dowdell, Trevor Etienne, they have talent.
00:48:03
This is a very, this is the most talent Carolina offense has had
00:48:06
in a long time. So they're not going to be able
00:48:08
to just kind of cheat on them. So I think Tetero McMillan is
00:48:11
always going to get double teamed.
00:48:13
There's too many weapons and I think Bryce Young's going to do
00:48:16
a good job of feeding them. So I think there's going to be a
00:48:18
high floor and a great shot of upside with Tetero McMillan.
00:48:22
Do you guys agree with that or where are you at on him?
00:48:24
Cuz I know you've got him. I love him.
00:48:25
Much higher Chism you've got about.
00:48:27
I love him. 15. Spots higher than me.
00:48:28
And I like him a lot. I will I, I, I haven't ranked
00:48:31
the highest. I, I have him at 26.
00:48:35
I almost had him in my Tier 2 because, and it's honestly just
00:48:38
because he's the number one. And I think Bryce Young's gonna
00:48:43
be a lot better. So there, there is a, there is
00:48:47
some scary here because like Bryce Young could end up not
00:48:50
being better. And if that's the case, Tedder O
00:48:52
Mcmillan's going to be a frustrated wide receiver, one
00:48:55
who's not getting fed enough. And that could be really bad.
00:48:58
But I I like what I've seen so far.
00:49:01
So I'm high on him, and probably higher than than most, maybe too
00:49:05
high, but I like Tedder O McMillan.
00:49:08
He's. Good.
00:49:08
I had I had him and Adam Thielen highlighted for the for similar
00:49:13
reasons, I think Bryce Young has has taken a step forward.
00:49:17
I think Thielen will not get as much attention and could be a a
00:49:22
decent, you know, probably wide receiver three options.
00:49:27
Yeah. For you, yeah, something you can
00:49:31
somebody you can throw in your flex spot.
00:49:32
Couple years ago he had an insane amount of catches, all
00:49:36
for like 3 yards apiece or something.
00:49:38
But but anyway, when you're scoring PPR, he was, he was a
00:49:43
tremendous asset. Yeah.
00:49:46
So it's a huge asset for a, a fantasy owner.
00:49:49
It's almost like a, you know, a cheat code for wide receivers.
00:49:53
Adam Theater Adam Field line would be 11 catches for 17.
00:49:57
Yards you. Know it's like insane.
00:50:02
So both of those guys I think have because because of the team
00:50:06
they play for and the quarterback that throws to them
00:50:08
and all that, I think they're going to fly under the radar a
00:50:11
lot in a lot of drafts. So look for some value there.
00:50:15
I had a question for both of you.
00:50:16
A guy that's in this tier, a couple years ago we would have
00:50:23
you would have said it's insane that he's in this tier even last
00:50:25
year 1 Cooper Cup. Is Cooper Cup too low this year?
00:50:30
Why or why not? I don't think he's too low
00:50:33
because we don't really know the role.
00:50:35
I mean, with the Rams, OK, we knew he was the one that's going
00:50:38
to be moving the chains and he also was healthy.
00:50:40
The problem is the last couple years, yeah, they've been real
00:50:43
healthy. And that's right.
00:50:45
He needs to be healthy. He's in a different system now.
00:50:49
So he's up in Seattle, and I mean, he's going to be the
00:50:53
second fiddle again. Jackson Smith and Jake Buzz
00:50:56
going to be the one. Yeah.
00:50:57
He's going to be that veteran presence on the outside, which
00:51:00
nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I think we've made that
00:51:02
abundantly clear. You can be the second white out
00:51:04
on a team. Sure.
00:51:06
Very, very good. But I don't know, I, I have him,
00:51:10
I think he's properly placed in Tier 3 because I think he can
00:51:14
have those good weeks. But I also think, I mean, Sam
00:51:17
Darnold is, I don't know, he's learning an entire new playbook,
00:51:20
right? And I know, I just don't know.
00:51:23
If I darnold factors. Confidence level.
00:51:26
Confidence level has me at a three for Cooper Cup.
00:51:28
But I like him though. I'm not going to be mad and have
00:51:30
him in my flex, but I'm not going to reach.
00:51:33
How about you, Prue? I I think he this is another guy
00:51:36
that I think it might be time for a fresh start.
00:51:40
I think he was getting way overshadowed in Saint Louis.
00:51:43
Buka Niku has taken, you know, the lion's share of the targets
00:51:48
and you had an insanely good wide receiver 2 that wasn't
00:51:52
getting fed. The thing that makes me leery is
00:51:54
that Jackson Smith in Jigba runs a lot of like, thwart crossing
00:52:00
routes, hook routes short. You know, he's not a deep threat
00:52:05
necessarily. And Cooper cuts.
00:52:07
Yeah, poker routes, right? Cooper Cup cannot be a deep
00:52:11
threat right? So are they?
00:52:13
Do they have room for two guys to be the same?
00:52:15
Almost like a A slot type guy. Feels a little crowded in there.
00:52:20
Feels a little crowded to me. They still are going to.
00:52:24
Somebody like go deep. They're going to, Yeah, do.
00:52:27
The 9 route do this regular. They're going to be like
00:52:31
sparkling over there to see who has to run at this time.
00:52:33
And I don't know. So I worry about that a little
00:52:36
bit. And then they they like to run
00:52:37
the ball with Kenneth Walker. Third, second.
00:52:41
I don't know who he is. 4th. Whichever 1 he is, whichever one
00:52:44
shows up that week, the third, he's the third.
00:52:47
Yeah, that's right. So I, I think we have him ranked
00:52:51
about right. I had him 40th.
00:52:56
Nope, I lied. I have him on there twice.
00:52:58
You. Really like it.
00:53:00
I like him so much, I've drafted him twice.
00:53:03
I got him 33rd, I got him 41st, I got him 50th.
00:53:08
I'm not. Really.
00:53:08
That I do I. Like Cooper Cup.
00:53:10
All right, that'll be edit #2. No, it's all good.
00:53:14
I love it. Keep it in all right, so it's
00:53:17
good. I want to hit on a couple dudes
00:53:18
just in passing cuz frankly they are both they're all in our Tier
00:53:22
2. We didn't talk about them, but
00:53:23
Cortland Sutton, I, I don't even, I think he's going to be
00:53:27
really good consistent for Denver.
00:53:29
Again, I think he's going to be the number one, clear number one
00:53:31
and he's going to do really well.
00:53:33
I think it's only going to get better for him.
00:53:35
Even with the addition of Evan Ingram, I think that's only
00:53:37
going to help him. I think Cortland Sutton will
00:53:39
probably get more targets and more perceptions because of
00:53:43
that, because it'll be one more good person taking attention off
00:53:46
him. So I think Cortland Sutton gets
00:53:48
more open. Stefan Diggs I want to hit on
00:53:51
because I know there's some, there's a lot of opinions on
00:53:55
Stefan Diggs for for what he's coming back from, I think in ACL
00:53:59
and he may or may not be playing Week 1.
00:54:02
So that's where I'm always like, but if he is, if he's playing
00:54:06
Week 1 and we get that news by draft time in a couple weeks,
00:54:09
are you taking Stefan Diggs and what can you expect from him?
00:54:14
So Chisholm, I know you've got some feelings on this one.
00:54:18
Let me know. What those are?
00:54:20
I'm not I'm not. So here's the deal.
00:54:23
He's coming off an ACL. He's 31 in wide receiver years.
00:54:28
31 is very old. It's like and so it's it's very
00:54:33
old, right? So and coming off at ACL.
00:54:37
Did I say he's coming off at ACL?
00:54:39
So he's he is and he's on the patriots now.
00:54:43
I like Frabel. I'm a big grabel friend too.
00:54:46
I know dex you. You're all on variable.
00:54:48
I like variable a lot. Too.
00:54:49
He's just such a good coach. But.
00:54:50
He really is. He's a really good coach, but I
00:54:53
I don't like a guy this age coming off an injury, especially
00:54:59
a guy who is used to being the guy, but.
00:55:05
He's still going to be the guy in New England.
00:55:07
He's the whole, he's the one. I know what I'm saying.
00:55:10
I think it's, I think it's gonna be pretty good.
00:55:13
I don't think he's going to perform like the one.
00:55:16
I think that when you get a 31 year old coming off an ACL
00:55:20
covered by the number one cornerback on the other team, I
00:55:23
like Douglas better. I like Demario more.
00:55:27
Targas I like Demario Douglas to get more or even of Mack Hollins
00:55:31
barefoot Mack Hollins to to get a or targets.
00:55:34
Or Hunter Henry Williams. Hunter Henry or Hunter Henry?
00:55:38
So right so now I kept totally you wrong on Diggs.
00:55:41
I loved him in his prime but he was doing high on him.
00:55:45
This. Year he was doing well for
00:55:46
Houston last year until he got hurt, he was he was doing really
00:55:49
well. And Yep, that was with Nico
00:55:52
Collins. I think they only had him for
00:55:53
like one week. Yeah, they had the band together
00:55:56
for like 1 practice. That's.
00:55:57
It did I mention he's coming off an ACL?
00:56:00
Yeah, Nope, that's true. That's why we got him in three.
00:56:03
But bruh, do you feel any differently?
00:56:05
Are are you nervous? I'm nervous.
00:56:08
Let's see where I had him ranked.
00:56:10
I actually have have him a little bit higher than Horch is
00:56:12
at him. How do I you have on?
00:56:15
There once at least. Yeah, yeah, managed to get him.
00:56:18
On there just one I think I was. Just a few spots.
00:56:21
Slower on him of. Everybody.
00:56:23
Yeah, I, I still have him fairly high.
00:56:25
I I mean, Acls are furious, obviously, but plenty of guys
00:56:32
have come back. 31 does scare me a little bit, but he's he's
00:56:36
talented enough. He didn't have hand surgery.
00:56:39
He can still catch the ball. Yeah.
00:56:41
So. I think it'll be fun.
00:56:43
I just want to go through and just kind of a yes or no that
00:56:47
you will have him on your team. Like if he comes to you and this
00:56:51
is the pick. Jerry, Judy, yes or no?
00:56:56
Keep it. Why you got to?
00:56:57
Start. Why you start with that one?
00:56:59
That's that's ridiculously hard. Jerry, Judy.
00:57:03
Yeah, because there's a quarterback carousel and he sort
00:57:07
of played last year anyway. Yes, OK.
00:57:10
Yeah, Yep. All right, I'm a yes too.
00:57:12
I think Jerry Judy is the clear number one for Cleveland.
00:57:15
No matter who the hell is behind, under center, they're
00:57:18
going to be throwing to Jerry Judy and David.
00:57:19
I'm going to. Throw one at you here.
00:57:21
Here's one yes or no Jawan Jennings.
00:57:24
No, I can't. No, no, yeah, he's the.
00:57:27
He's the de facto 1. I know, but he's also kind of
00:57:30
already nicked. He's already got a hamming.
00:57:32
He missed games last year. I'm a I'm probably a no as well.
00:57:41
I just I don't indecisive. No, I don't like the I don't
00:57:44
like the San Francisco's offense.
00:57:48
I think, I think it's going to be a whole lot of Kittle and
00:57:51
that's going to get shut down quickly.
00:57:54
Well CMC till he hurts himself all.
00:57:56
Right, Calvin Ridley, yes or no to this all or nothing.
00:58:02
Like he's a 0 and that's what he actually gives you some weeks.
00:58:05
The Riddler, Will he be on your team this year?
00:58:08
I'm an I'm a hard no, hard no. He is a guy.
00:58:12
So when I mentioned shrewdness sleepers before, he was a
00:58:15
shrewdness sleeper pick like 7 times for us because there are
00:58:20
certain weeks where he might perform pretty well and he's
00:58:23
always available, but he's the. Number one, he's the number.
00:58:27
One I I know it for Tennessee. For.
00:58:29
Cam Ward's great arm strength. I can't do it.
00:58:33
I can't do it all. Right, Chisholm, it's up to you.
00:58:36
I got to. I got to go no as well.
00:58:39
I go no. Yeah, this.
00:58:40
Is going to be a fool me twice thing.
00:58:42
No, not again. Man.
00:58:43
I I rode the Calvin Ridley roller coaster too many times
00:58:46
and it's a fun ride if you like adrenaline, but I also want
00:58:49
someone I I know will actually catch a ball some games.
00:58:52
I know he's had some good weeks listeners out there like but but
00:58:55
Dax, you guys, you guys are idiots, man.
00:58:57
He had so many good weeks. I don't know, I think you need
00:59:00
to go check your stats. He had some good weeks.
00:59:05
That's a fact. But man, if you're trying to say
00:59:08
week after week, he had some stretches and that's about as
00:59:11
good as I'll give him. All right, Devante Smith, yes or
00:59:15
no for the Philly because he's another one, the slim Reaper.
00:59:19
But I think he also reaps a lot of fantasy owners.
00:59:20
Somewhere. Especially in guillotine because
00:59:23
if it's an A.J. Brown Saquon day and tush push
00:59:25
Jalen that's a 2 for 20 day for Devante some weeks.
00:59:29
I can I cannot be objective in this one because he effed me
00:59:34
over so bad last year. Like I cannot have him on my
00:59:39
team again. He's he's as bad juju.
00:59:43
Nope. You like Juju Smith and but,
00:59:44
said Juju Smith. Juicer, I probably would take
00:59:48
Juju ahead. Of I would take bad juju over.
00:59:51
Yeah, right. Over Devante Devante Smith.
00:59:55
All right, so Zay flowers, so Baltimore's number one, yes or
01:00:01
no? Or is that too tricky?
01:00:02
I'm a yes Hard yes, hard yes I'm.
01:00:04
A I'm a yes too. I like Zay Flowers.
01:00:06
I think he's got a lot of upside talent potential.
01:00:09
Him and Rashad Bateman probably will have the same kind of stat
01:00:12
lines again, but. I have AI have an old man talent
01:00:19
here I. Like old men.
01:00:22
But there's one thing Chisholm likes.
01:00:24
It's old guys with some saggy things.
01:00:27
That's right. All right, Do you take a chance
01:00:30
on Chris Godwin, Keenan Allen or the aforementioned?
01:00:35
Who do we aforementioned that's coming back?
01:00:38
Stefan. Stefan Diggs.
01:00:39
Sorry. OK, So Diggs, Diggs, Godwin,
01:00:45
Keenan, Allen. That's a pretty good one, pro.
01:00:48
That's a pretty good one. I think I like Keenan Allen.
01:00:53
I think, OK, he's gonna he already has familiarity with
01:00:57
Herbert, right? He's already had some great
01:00:59
seasons with them. True.
01:01:01
He's going, he's not hurt. He's not going back from an ACL
01:01:04
or a disgusting ankle injury that looks just disgusting and
01:01:07
they had to like take it off the air.
01:01:09
So I think that also helps. So not being just horribly
01:01:14
injured last year, but I think he's got the most talisry at
01:01:18
this age. I don't know.
01:01:19
I think Godwin probably has more upside, but I think Allen's
01:01:23
gonna be the higher floor, more consistent.
01:01:25
But I still like Digs as long as he plays Week 1.
01:01:27
But again, that's my whole point.
01:01:29
I don't know if he'll be there Week 1.
01:01:31
Right. Yeah.
01:01:32
Right. So I'm going Keenan Allen on
01:01:34
that one. Yeah, I'm, I'm Godwin.
01:01:38
I'm Team Godwin on that one. I like that offense better.
01:01:42
He didn't play a lot last year, but when he did he was really
01:01:46
good. He had like 3 or 4 top 20
01:01:49
finishes in the 6-7 games he played.
01:01:52
So I like him a lot. How about you, Pro?
01:01:55
I'm, I'm with you on Godwin, but I mean, anybody that drafts
01:02:00
Godwin, you better have another receiver that you're taking in
01:02:04
the next round 'cause there's a better than average chance you
01:02:08
will miss several games this year.
01:02:10
So. I think it's a contract year for
01:02:12
him too, which I always kind of like.
01:02:14
So he's going to try and stay on the field.
01:02:16
But The thing is, I think he's got enough character and
01:02:18
commitment to the team anyway. He'd be doing it anyway.
01:02:22
That's what I like about Chris Godwin.
01:02:23
But boy, that was a disgusting injury.
01:02:25
So I just don't know what he's going to look like if that
01:02:27
quickness is still going to be there in the first step.
01:02:29
And I mean, modern medicine, especially the kind they get in
01:02:33
the NFL, those guys tend to come back just fine.
01:02:36
That's right. But you never really know.
01:02:37
You never really know. All right, so another one that
01:02:41
is going to be a A-Team number one for a good offense, Khalil
01:02:45
Shakur for the Buffalo Bills, He is hopeful for Week 1.
01:02:51
Does that scare you away on draft day?
01:02:54
Do you take him or he's going to wait?
01:02:56
Like if he still has a queue next to his name on draft day
01:02:59
two weeks from now, not a chance.
01:03:02
Do you take a chance on him? Not a chance.
01:03:05
There's no way, and here's why. Like #1 here's some advice for
01:03:10
all of you who are doing your first your first guillotine
01:03:13
league. Do not draft someone hurt for
01:03:16
Week 1. Especially if one of your first
01:03:18
8 picks it'll be starting for you.
01:03:20
This is the biggest learning that you'll have, switching from
01:03:25
traditional fantasy to guillotine.
01:03:28
You don't stash people because you may not be around.
01:03:32
You are. You are.
01:03:34
You have to have somebody. It's like, what can you do for
01:03:37
me this week? And like if you have the luxury,
01:03:40
you might have the luxury early on to stash somebody.
01:03:43
If you're like, hey, I feel really good about all my team,
01:03:47
but you're going to find that the teams are really thin really
01:03:49
quickly. So if you're going to stash
01:03:50
somebody, it's got to be like CMC level talent.
01:03:54
Jamar Chase was the way they were hoping.
01:03:57
Played Week 1. Jamar.
01:03:58
Chase, right, Like that level talent Khalil Shakur, even
01:04:03
though he's number one on the Bills, he didn't have one top
01:04:07
five finish. Which is surprising.
01:04:09
I saw that too. I couldn't believe it.
01:04:11
He just feared like had to be one week where he was the guy.
01:04:14
Like, that's crazy. So I mean, what that says to me
01:04:18
is even at his best, yeah, he's he's not the guy.
01:04:21
So I I can't take a risk on Khalil Shakur, even though he's
01:04:25
a Top 40 wide receiver last year.
01:04:27
Yeah, I can't do. It only two top 10 finishes,
01:04:30
though. We're talking high floors.
01:04:31
That ain't it, right? So it's crazy.
01:04:34
All right. I think there's one more fun one
01:04:37
I want to talk about. We kind of hinted at him
01:04:38
already, Travis Hunter. So what do we think?
01:04:41
He's going to be so split in time between wide out and
01:04:44
cornerback. He's a rookie, there's already a
01:04:46
learning curve, but he's also slotted in to be #2 on the team
01:04:51
with Brian Thomas junior across from who we both we all love,
01:04:54
like shrewdness loves Brian Thomas Junior.
01:04:56
So does Travis Hunter, how's he going to look this year?
01:05:01
I don't know. Is there someone you're
01:05:02
confident about to have on your slot?
01:05:04
Probably obviously is a flex spot, but is it a comfortable
01:05:08
flex spot for us, do we think? I, I'm on the under on him
01:05:13
playing offense. I, I think he will, but I think
01:05:16
they're going to utilize him more on the defensive side of
01:05:19
the ball. I think he's going to be like
01:05:21
they're going to figure out that he's going to get too beat up if
01:05:23
he's playing both sides of the ball.
01:05:25
So I think that's true. I think he'll default more to
01:05:29
the defensive side of the ball. Yep.
01:05:30
Right jizz. What do you think of Travis
01:05:32
Hunter I. I think he's the shiny new toy.
01:05:35
They're going to get the ball. Like I'm probably more bullish
01:05:39
on him than Prue because I I feel like they traded so much to
01:05:43
get. Him, yes, they did that you
01:05:46
better be good to. I'm afraid they, I'm actually
01:05:48
afraid they might overuse him because he is they've, they've
01:05:52
invested in him so much. But early in the season, I like
01:05:57
having him on my team because I think they're going to force him
01:05:59
the ball. Yeah, I think he's good enough
01:06:01
to get it, too. I think he can handle it.
01:06:03
I like Thomas Hunter. I won't be upset if he's in my
01:06:05
flex spot. All right, let's go to a couple
01:06:08
kind of pretty steady eddies, Michael Pittman, Junior, Wandale
01:06:14
Robinson. So those guys are again #1
01:06:20
Pittman for the Colts. And then Wandale Robinson was a
01:06:23
very highly productive #2 on the Giants opposite of Malik
01:06:28
Neighbors last year. Are those two guys going to find
01:06:32
their way onto your rosters this year?
01:06:34
Why or why not? So let's start with Michael
01:06:37
Pittman, junior from the Colts. So we don't know who's throwing
01:06:40
to him. Is it Richardson, is it Daniel
01:06:43
Jones? It's looking like it's leaning
01:06:45
towards Daniel Jones at the moment.
01:06:47
Does that change your calculus at all?
01:06:50
So Michael Pittman, he's pretty. Good.
01:06:51
I like Michael Pittman. I really do.
01:06:55
Yeah, but I'm not drafting him, not with that crap show that's
01:06:59
happening in Indianapolis. Like, I cannot like Daniel.
01:07:03
I don't want anyone who's having Daniel Jones throw him the ball.
01:07:06
Yeah, that's your main guy. We're in trouble, but Malik
01:07:09
neighbors, that was him last year and like we say.
01:07:11
I know he got. Fed until he got traded to the
01:07:15
Vikings. Midst you're right.
01:07:16
I mean, he could he could say like this is my Malik neighbors.
01:07:21
You know, I just, I have a very bad feeling about Michael
01:07:24
Pittman. Yeah, I kind of too.
01:07:26
I think Josh Downs, for one, will get more targets and kind
01:07:29
of supplant him. Down we look, just year good.
01:07:31
Pittman had one top ten finish in the whiteouts all of last
01:07:35
season. There's week.
01:07:36
Seven. I carried him on my roster a lot
01:07:38
of that season. Yeah, so I don't like him at
01:07:40
all. He will not be on my team, but
01:07:42
you can still like him. It's all good out there,
01:07:44
shrewdness, listening, but just he, he's not going to be on
01:07:46
probably our teams unless Pruitt changes it.
01:07:48
Is there a one vote for Pittman? Nope.
01:07:51
I think there's a lot more evidence for Alec Pierce being
01:07:54
on my team. Like he had a lot more, a lot
01:07:58
more upside, a lot more high points weeks last year.
01:08:03
So. Absolutely.
01:08:04
One other I wanted to touch on. The rankings are all over the
01:08:08
place for this guy, Jalen Waddle, because two years ago he
01:08:10
was super good. Him and Tyreke were the 1-2
01:08:13
punch for a ridiculously good Miami Dolphins offense.
01:08:17
Then last year, they're all terrible.
01:08:19
Whole team was terrible. Jalen Waddle has fallen rounds,
01:08:23
rounds and rounds. He was a he.
01:08:26
Was a second round pick. Yes, a couple.
01:08:28
Years ago, yeah. Absolutely.
01:08:30
And Giel, he was absolutely in the second round, middle of
01:08:32
second round last year, right? Do you take Jalen Waddle this
01:08:35
year? Do you trust the two years ago
01:08:37
waddling in the end zone or do you do the 2 touchdown 50 some
01:08:41
catches from last year version of Jalen Waddle?
01:08:44
Let's start with Prue. I'm higher on him than I think
01:08:46
you guys are. I've got him ranked in the upper
01:08:50
third of my 2/3. I see that.
01:08:55
And I'm. Wondering why that is as I look
01:08:57
across his one top ten finish. Jesus one top 15 finish.
01:09:03
I just think he's got too much talent.
01:09:06
I think with Johnny Smith leaving those, those targets
01:09:11
will be spread pretty evenly between Tyree Kill and Jalen
01:09:15
Waddle and Darren Caller and yeah.
01:09:19
It's Darren Waller. And four targets for Darren
01:09:21
Waller until he's out with a bad back Shane.
01:09:23
Who's gonna have like 100 receptions himself from the
01:09:25
running back? Yeah, right.
01:09:28
OK. So you got him?
01:09:28
That's all good. I like him.
01:09:30
I, I think he'll, I think he's a fine wide receiver, 2/3 all.
01:09:36
Right Chisholm. Yeah, yeah.
01:09:38
I, I don't have good data to support this, but I like Jalen
01:09:43
Waddle. I mean he.
01:09:44
Does like his touchdown celebration?
01:09:46
Let's be honest. I do love his touchdown
01:09:48
celebration. Maybe he had to do twice.
01:09:50
I mean, he had, he had this guy was the number six overall pick
01:09:56
a few years ago. Like he's he's ridiculous talent
01:10:00
and he's out of Alabama. He's really good.
01:10:03
They just got to figure out how to get him the ball more.
01:10:06
And I tend to think that they will.
01:10:10
I just have a good feeling about Jalen Lotto this year.
01:10:14
And I do think a lot of it stems from what Pruitt said and losing
01:10:16
Jonnu Smith. I think those targets got to go
01:10:18
somewhere and I think Jalen gets back into the into the mix more.
01:10:22
Next, I'm not think. I know where you are.
01:10:24
I'm not. You're not touching it with a 10
01:10:26
foot pole. No like.
01:10:28
That's a stay away from me. Jalen Waddles a stay away.
01:10:31
And yeah, he might have a great year and I might miss out.
01:10:33
So be it. I'm going to hit on somebody
01:10:35
else and it'll be. But it ain't going to be him.
01:10:39
All right, let's go with another one that's been exciting for
01:10:43
years because they keep waiting for him to be good.
01:10:46
Jameson Williams who? I was waiting for you to bring
01:10:49
him up. Jameson Williams is pretty good.
01:10:52
I had 1000 yards saving last year.
01:10:55
Last year he was a top five finisher twice and then 8th and
01:10:59
10th and really he was pretty consistent.
01:11:01
He had a couple of super duds, so like 113 and 102, but for the
01:11:06
most part, outside of those two, he was a very productive wide
01:11:10
receiver to have on your roster last year.
01:11:12
Jameson Williams, I have no issue having him on my team.
01:11:16
I don't know if I again, he's not a one.
01:11:17
I hope he's my flex, but he's my two.
01:11:20
I'm not too mad about it and I'm hoping though that he's my 3 so
01:11:24
hopefully he's anchoring a flex spot.
01:11:26
For me but. What do you guys like about
01:11:28
Jameson Williams? Biggest advantage is that he's
01:11:31
on a high-powered offense, right?
01:11:34
We and I've, I've expressed my concerns.
01:11:37
I I'm patiently waiting to see what Detroit looks like this
01:11:40
year offensively, but everybody is he, he definitely can be a
01:11:46
wide receiver three, no doubt, like in a flex spot.
01:11:49
So I I think he's definitely a flex spot, maybe a wide receiver
01:11:54
2, depending on how the draft goes, my draft position and all
01:11:58
that. But I wouldn't be too mad about
01:12:01
having him, yeah. I agree.
01:12:02
Cheers. Yeah, he's trending in the right
01:12:05
direction. He's got a lot of talent and he
01:12:07
had 1000 yards receiving year. He had 7 touchdowns.
01:12:11
You know, if you look at his progression over his career,
01:12:14
he's gotten better every year. Yep, and he's still young.
01:12:19
He's 23, so, you know, I feel like he's worth the flyer,
01:12:24
although I don't have warm and fuzzies about him.
01:12:27
Yeah, and there's no good reason why I shouldn't.
01:12:30
But I think it probably has something to do with what Prue
01:12:32
was talking about. What are they going to do in
01:12:33
that offense? How's it going to look this
01:12:35
year? Is it going to be more running?
01:12:37
I hope they keep the same system for Detroit fans out there
01:12:40
because that system worked. Just keep the same playbook.
01:12:44
Just dust it off and change the name up top.
01:12:46
Put some Wyatt out on there and put the new offensive
01:12:48
coordinator like this. Might totally work.
01:12:50
Let's roll with this one. That's what I do.
01:12:52
That's right, that's right. There's one on here that I am
01:12:56
just absolutely not taking. He's I am so low I will never
01:13:01
get him anyway. But Crystal Ave. it's not
01:13:03
talent. No, it is not talent based.
01:13:06
Love it. It is Nolan's and who the heck
01:13:09
Spencer Rattler or Shuck? Tyler Shuck?
01:13:13
I can't believe in any of those two dudes to make this guy worth
01:13:17
anything to me. Worth drafting.
01:13:19
So Crystal Labe, right? He'd be on my do not draft list,
01:13:22
but he's on a lot of people's kind of sneaky ones.
01:13:25
And I get that crappy teams can have good white outs, but damn
01:13:29
man, if it's coming down to Monday night and I need Crystal
01:13:31
Labbe to give me 9 points, can I really count on 4 for 50
01:13:37
touchdown? No, it won't be that gross me,
01:13:40
doesn't it? Kamara or nothing for the Saints
01:13:42
for me. But Crystal Labbe?
01:13:44
Am I alone in this or where you guys at on Crystal Labbe?
01:13:46
I I have doubts all I. Need to know right there, OK.
01:13:49
I have doubts. I will say, like I mentioned
01:13:52
last episode, I think New Orleans Saints have the second
01:13:55
easiest schedule based on last year's results.
01:13:59
So yeah, maybe they put up more points this year, but yeah,
01:14:07
they're going to compete defensively and keep generally
01:14:10
they're not going to score that many points with their
01:14:13
quarterback situation. They're going to be really,
01:14:15
really bad. They might be drafting and
01:14:17
getting Arch Manning a reunion in New Orleans next year is how
01:14:21
bad they're going to be. Definitely see that.
01:14:23
I mean, actually, history repeats itself.
01:14:26
That's going to be a rough team. I think in general, I think it's
01:14:30
going to be a rough. Team now I'm rooting for an O
01:14:32
117 season so they can get Arch Manning.
01:14:34
Go for it. Let me go.
01:14:35
For it. All right, Roma Dunsay next one
01:14:38
up for me and they'll let you guys pick some dudes.
01:14:41
Roma Dunsay for the Bears, 10th overall pick last year out of
01:14:45
Washington. He's got the good system.
01:14:47
Again, we're talking about we like Ben Johnson in Chicago.
01:14:50
He's going to be the number 2 on that team.
01:14:53
What do you think about Roma Dunsay?
01:14:54
Does he take a step up? And I think he's gonna be
01:14:58
targeted some more. I think he's gonna be pretty
01:14:59
good. Brew I I have him higher than
01:15:02
our average. I didn't see where you had him
01:15:04
just about where I did 33 and 35 or how we had him ranked.
01:15:10
XI think it's a little higher. No, a little lower actually,
01:15:14
yeah, yeah. So I guess I'm the highest of
01:15:16
the of the three of us at Adam at 33 overall.
01:15:20
Again, IA lot of these guys week to week is not going to make a
01:15:24
whole lot of difference whether he finishes 35th that week or
01:15:28
50th that week, right. I I think he's going to be in
01:15:31
that range quite often. I don't think he'll shine top 10
01:15:37
performances more than maybe once in the year, but I think
01:15:41
he'll be steady as a, you know, Tier 3 contributor.
01:15:46
Yeah, OK. That works.
01:15:48
Cheers. Where you at?
01:15:50
I don't love him because I don't love Caleb Williams.
01:15:55
Fair enough. At least we're honest.
01:15:57
You're rudeness. Yeah.
01:15:58
I mean, that's the at the end of the day, that's what it comes.
01:16:00
Out, I don't have to trust. For him, I, I don't think he's
01:16:03
he, I don't think he's good enough nor smart enough to get
01:16:05
him the ball. There we go.
01:16:07
How about you Dicks? There, I said it.
01:16:09
I like, I like a doomsday just cuz I think his talent is gonna
01:16:13
again, having so many weapons can be hard to double anybody at
01:16:16
any given time. With Loveland and DJ Moore, Roma
01:16:20
Duns, a Luther burden, they're gonna have a lot of people.
01:16:23
I think he's just going to have enough routes that he's the one
01:16:26
that's the most open. And I'm hoping that Caleb
01:16:28
Williams can learn to make reads.
01:16:29
But I just how did you not get better in year 2?
01:16:32
And it could be it's just a very hard playbook to learn, which it
01:16:35
probably is. I mean, Jared Goff said it was
01:16:37
very hard. It took him a couple years, but
01:16:39
then boy was he good once he got it all.
01:16:41
So don't say he's got the talent to be good.
01:16:44
I have him at the very, very, very last spot on my Tier 3.
01:16:48
I think he's got enough kind of upside to justify that spot, but
01:16:53
I was waffling on putting him in Tier 4.
01:16:56
But I think he could be good enough for Tier 3.
01:16:58
And yeah, it wouldn't be horrible.
01:16:59
If he's in my flex, especially early weeks, I think he'd be
01:17:02
pretty good. Right.
01:17:04
That's right. So I want us all to now talk
01:17:07
about we're not going through this list.
01:17:08
So that's that's Tier 3 unless there's anyone else you guys
01:17:10
want to talk about out of that. We didn't touch everybody I
01:17:13
know. And so listeners out there,
01:17:14
again, that's why we're going to put a list up.
01:17:16
We're trying to talk about some of the ones that are kind of
01:17:18
more waffly, but went through a bunch of them went through a
01:17:20
bunch, but Tier 4, these are our lottery picks.
01:17:24
So now we're into the lottery zone.
01:17:26
Like we have filled out our 8 starters.
01:17:28
Now we're looking for somebody that if you need them, hopefully
01:17:31
you get paying into something. So there's so many here.
01:17:34
This, this, this tier has about 40 freaking people in it.
01:17:37
So that's kind of so. Let me we're just, we'll just,
01:17:40
we'll discuss a couple. I think we each throw out one
01:17:43
game or one guy each that's like a flyer pick.
01:17:46
Like keep an eye on this guy. Maybe your 13th or 14th pick,
01:17:50
you take a shot all. Right Chism, start us up.
01:17:54
Well, I got a question for you guys in this tier, Rashi Rice.
01:17:59
Dang it, I was going to talk about.
01:18:03
Where do you guys, where do you, what do you do with Rashe Rice?
01:18:07
Like he, he, he may start the season.
01:18:10
Or he may miss the first five to six games.
01:18:14
Or he may they they could come with the suspension a month in,
01:18:18
you know, you don't know what it's going to be.
01:18:20
So, you know, do you take a, would you take a spot if I'm a
01:18:25
drafting guillotine player right now?
01:18:28
Do you guys take a spot for Rashi Rice late in the draft at
01:18:33
this time as a lottery ticket? This would be like around 1213.
01:18:38
Yep. For me it's not.
01:18:39
He's not gonna be like my first four backup spots like.
01:18:43
That's right. He's still there.
01:18:45
So round 13. Yeah.
01:18:47
You taking him? Round 13 I'll take him cuz at
01:18:49
that point I have backups to fill in in case something
01:18:52
happens those first couple weeks.
01:18:53
OK. Yep, Yep.
01:18:55
To me, it's worth a shot. You don't have bye week.
01:18:59
You don't have bye week problems until week five.
01:19:01
I think it is, yeah. That's right.
01:19:04
So you got 4 weeks to figure it out kick in.
01:19:06
So I I think you take a shot week or in round 13, round 14
01:19:11
and. You pay along those same along
01:19:13
those same lines, Brandon Iuke. He's out for like 6 weeks though
01:19:18
isn't he? Nah, I'm just saying Brandon
01:19:20
Iuke. Rashid Rice could be out six
01:19:23
weeks. That's right.
01:19:24
No, you're right. Do you stash Iuke?
01:19:27
It's round 13, Brandon. Iuke's on the board.
01:19:30
You taking him or no? I feel like you said the same
01:19:32
thing, like he's going back from an ACL injury mid season ACL
01:19:37
injury after he held out last year and finally got his
01:19:40
contract. Yes or no?
01:19:41
Yes or no? No one no.
01:19:44
For no, no. OK, so the the.
01:19:46
Somebody else's problems? On the yes.
01:19:49
On on Rashi Rice. No.
01:19:52
On Brandon Iuke. OK.
01:19:53
Jordan Addison. Exactly.
01:19:54
One thing is Rice, yes, for me again, it's a 12 or 13 K because
01:19:59
he's super good when he plays and he's he's.
01:20:02
Just both of you suspended. And that's three games for him,
01:20:05
right? Yeah.
01:20:05
Three games already locked down. You know what you're getting
01:20:07
when you draft them two. The other.
01:20:09
Two, you don't. Yep, that's true.
01:20:11
You we might we might know on Rasheed Rice before the season
01:20:14
starts. Yeah.
01:20:15
So yeah, if you guys were like, why are they not talked about
01:20:18
Rasheed Rice and Jordan S and these shrewdest guys are idiots
01:20:21
because we're not drafting people that are hurt, suspended,
01:20:23
anything. Else, welcome to guillotine they
01:20:26
are. Rapidly, the best ability is
01:20:27
availability. That's our new saying.
01:20:29
That's right. Welcome.
01:20:30
Welcome to guillotine. You have field of play, All
01:20:34
right, That's right. So let's let's talk about an
01:20:36
actual player on the list that is healthy, is not suspended and
01:20:40
will be playing week one. Who do you like Chisholm out of
01:20:45
your little pile of red like you're?
01:20:48
Out of my pile of red. Our wild card Who's your wild
01:20:51
card in there that has some upside?
01:20:53
I mean this is a disgusting pile for sure.
01:20:59
There's some good people in it. There's some really good ones in
01:21:01
there. No, there's some good.
01:21:02
People in it, you're right, there's some good people in it.
01:21:05
My person is you don't feel good about any of these people.
01:21:11
So let me just qualify that. There's a reason they're in the
01:21:13
red, OK, but if I'm taking a flyer here, it's probably Josh
01:21:21
Downs. Yeah, I like that.
01:21:24
Why do you like Josh Downs? Tell me why.
01:21:26
Give me more. Well, Josh Downs is, He's a
01:21:30
really talented guy and he's got the ability to do a lot with the
01:21:34
ball. I like him in space.
01:21:36
He is like the type of player who could have a breakout
01:21:40
season. He's at that stage of his career
01:21:43
right now where from a development standpoint, you look
01:21:46
at the guy, he's 23, you know, this is the kind of year you
01:21:49
could have a breakout year on. So I'll put some chips down on
01:21:53
Josh Downs. Like, here's another thing I
01:21:55
like about him. Seven top 20 finishes as a wide
01:21:59
out last year for the Colts, that's saying something.
01:22:02
They 7 top 20. So Josh Downs, I like him a lot,
01:22:05
too. That's a pretty good one,
01:22:06
Pruitt. You're taking out of your pile
01:22:08
of poop, Pru. I just so one name we I had him
01:22:13
actually listed at the bottom of my two or three.
01:22:15
We didn't talk about him. I don't think Marquis Brown.
01:22:19
That's good. Hollywood.
01:22:22
Hollywood Brown, I think is worth a late pick, late Tier 3,
01:22:25
early Tier 4. If if Rishi Rice is out for the
01:22:29
first five weeks, I think he and Worthy are going to get the
01:22:33
lion's share of targets. Kelsey's obviously going to get
01:22:37
plenty. But as far as wide receiver,
01:22:41
those two will be in there for a lot more reps than then maybe
01:22:45
once they get into the season and Rishi Rice comes back.
01:22:47
So Hollywood Brown could get some early value for me.
01:22:51
Nice. I like it.
01:22:53
And dex. All right, you're a red pile.
01:22:55
Out of my red pile, I'm doing one that has a lot of upside
01:22:58
playing behind a couple really old dudes.
01:23:00
So a Mecca Egbuka wide receiver 3IN Tampa that we've already
01:23:05
said. We love the offense.
01:23:06
We like where Baker's going. We like what this team has.
01:23:09
Bucky Irvin running the ball, good line.
01:23:12
And this guy is playing behind a dude who jacked his ankle up and
01:23:16
82 year old Mike Evans. So if anything happens, he has
01:23:19
even more upside. But I think he's gonna be pretty
01:23:21
good in the three slot anyway. So there's a there's a story
01:23:26
about a young man named Randy Moss who came in behind Chris
01:23:29
Carter and Jake Reed and they're like Randy Moss ain't gonna
01:23:33
touch the ball at all. I'm not saying he's gonna have a
01:23:35
Randy Moss year, I'm just saying it's not without history that
01:23:39
you can have a decent year and I think he could do really well.
01:23:43
I agree. Ibuka is going to be used a
01:23:44
bunch and he's again, Ohio State's all time, one of the
01:23:49
best all time ever out of Ohio State.
01:23:51
And he's going to be just lining up in the slot and on the
01:23:53
outside and he's really big and really good and has great hands.
01:23:57
So I think Ibuka's going to be used quite a bit.
01:23:59
And I just don't believe in the health of Evans and Godwin to
01:24:03
play 17 games each. I.
01:24:04
Think that's very fair? So I think Ibuka's got some
01:24:07
upside because of that. So that's that's one I like a
01:24:09
lot. It's kind of a rookie that we
01:24:11
don't know much yet, but they like him enough.
01:24:13
They already have him on the depth chart, just three.
01:24:15
So he's going to be on the field a ton already.
01:24:18
So there's a lot of rest of these on here, but we're not
01:24:20
going to go through all those. Check check out the check out
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01:24:26
We will be publicizing the website, but it's the shrewdness
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01:24:38
You can see all our episodes on there.
01:24:40
You can see all our rankings. When the season starts, you're
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01:24:44
A lot of good stuff will be on there.
01:24:46
We'll have, we'll also be putting blog posts up with some
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information there talking about what's going on in the season.
01:24:53
So it's gonna be a really good, it's gonna be your hub for
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Guillotine. There may even be a high school
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01:24:59
There, there might be. You never know.
01:25:01
You may you may go there just for the gorgeous guys that are
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01:25:10
So we invite you to check it out again one more time, the
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01:25:20
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01:25:23
the previews. We have even more fun during the
01:25:26
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01:25:28
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01:25:31
will be talking about what's going on in the world of
01:25:33
fantasy. We'll be talking about who you
01:25:35
need to look for. Pruitt mentioned the Shrewdness
01:25:37
Sleepers, which is content you'll be able to access
01:25:41
eventually on the website. We'll also have Spuds guys that
01:25:44
are typically folks that you would count on that we don't
01:25:47
like for the next week. Yeah, given the match,
01:25:49
everything. Spuds will be on there.
01:25:52
We'll also have our betting picks because we, you know, we
01:25:55
finance these houses basically by betting on sports.
01:25:59
And so that is, you know, what you need to look at, you know,
01:26:03
probably don't invest all of your money, but money you're
01:26:05
willing to lose, you'll be able to invest.
01:26:08
Yeah, with us by our betting picks.
01:26:11
But we're headed into the best part of the year for the
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really, really, really love NFL and we really love Guillotine,
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so this is a fun time. Well said.
01:26:20
Appreciate it, Chiz. All right, boys.
01:26:23
Well, the next episode we do, we'll kind of talk about some
01:26:26
just overall rankings. We'll talk about how the
01:26:29
preseason games are going, how some of the battles for roster
01:26:32
spots. So it'll be fun.
01:26:34
So it'll be kind of the next episode we do.
01:26:35
We kind of talk about that stuff.
01:26:37
So stay tuned. And until then, though, the most
01:26:40
important thing of all.